ISU-152
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I can't see nothing in the change log.
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ISU range from 100 to 70. But nothing about Squad wiping?
I can't see nothing in the change log.
Changelog says all AOE on range has been decreased
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Permanently BannedTiger vs ISU? No problem, guards button + AT nade, gg.
Units worth over 1000 MP vs 1 Tiger? I don't see a problem here. Please don't believe that you have Wunderwaffen in CoH2, it's still a game, not the realization of your weird Wehrmacht fantasy fan fiction. thx
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Supposedly the AOE changes make it harder for the ISU to wipe squads but my first 3 shots from the ISU all wiped squads.
Yea I loaded up a custom game and there is no difference in the squad whipes once in range.
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Nice pic i also have a nice pic about what was left from an ISU-152 after he meet some german tanks on the battlefield:
Destroyed ISU-152 after a fight with german tanks:
By the way blowing enemies turret off was nothing Special in WW2.ISU-152 werent the only vehicle that could blew a turret from a tank:
KV-2 wreck:
T-34 wreck:
IS-2 wreck:
IS-2 after a fight with german tanks:
15 IS-2's knocked out frontally from a distance of 1,500m by Tiger Ausf.E's from the GrossDeutchland Division in August 1944:
Soviet tanks didn t look much better when they got destroyed.The photo about the destroyed panther is nothing Special compared to other photos.
The first photo isnt ISU 152 but SU 152
And that third IS 2 was destroyed by Tiger II from short distance by three shots between turret and hull.
If somebody think that IS 2 was worse at antitank fights in compare Panther and Tiger read this:
http://tankarchives.blogspot.sk/2013/07/is-2-vs-big-cats-at-lvov.html
http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2013/03/combat-accuracy-of-is-2.html
If it is stupid propaganda, then everything from german side about destroyed soviet vehicles it is.
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Here is the historic part:
Here is the on topic:
Let me bring this ontopic, because I wanted to know about the ISU-152 in the recent patch (which I thought the necro was about). It received some increased scatter I think in that patch after the 70 range nerf. So how is it now?
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Permanently BannedThe fact that it one-shots all infantry based units has to be fixed. Period. In a game where unit preservation and veterancy are key to victory a unit that just vaporizes every infantry squad out of nowhere (yes the range decrease made it less horrible) has no place.
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Permanently BannedThe elephant was terrible and not balanced throughout the year, and you are complaining about the ISU-152. ISU-152 was the only thing that stopped the stupid spammers, but now ISU-152 is not worth their investment more profitable to build two Katyusha rockets.
Yeah...compare the Elefant (which has never been OP, because of the simple fact that it can only deal with one kind of unit) to the ISU, which can handle every kind of unit.
Its not only worth its investment, there simply isnt a reason not to get it because it will have paid itself after firing ~5 shots.
The ISU got a nerf, but at the same time its only counters (elefant and Jagdtiger) got nerfed too. The only thing that happened, that it is more prone to flanks, and thats a good thing. However, the main issue still exists. If an ISU hits the field you HAVE TO engage it asap. You have to throw in all your units (even if it is well supported) or it will pick you off one by one over time.
The elefant can be ignored until you take out its support, you cant do that with the ISU.
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I've used it in 1v1 a few times and I hardly see it get squad wipes. It's a good general purpose assault gun (as the AT is quite good too) if it's protected, but I rarely see it destroying armies.
I don't play team games, so is it that much more dangerous in 2v2 and up?
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Am I the only one who hasn't found this unit to be all that amazing?
I've used it in 1v1 a few times and I hardly see it get squad wipes. It's a good general purpose assault gun (as the AT is quite good too) if it's protected, but I rarely see it destroying armies.
I don't play team games, so is it that much more dangerous in 2v2 and up?
In 2v2 you have more forces protecting your ISU that is camping the middle VP (your teammate), so if you dont have Jagdtiger, gg wp.
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In 2v2 you have more forces protecting your ISU that is camping the middle VP (your teammate), so if you dont have Jagdtiger, gg wp.
Not really.
Just had a 2v2 where opponents did exactly what you describe, we were pretty desperate to end it as they had just 3 VPs, but us blob and pair of ISU was nearing critical mass, so I just went 2 puma YOLO rush, AT guns couldn't keep, infantry couldn't keep up, got ISU, got priest and saved one puma on sliver of health.
There are ways around everything.
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Permanently BannedIn theory flanks should be a great counter to the isu, in reality few players are too stupid not to support their ISU properly. At least at rank 1000 and below
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