Same old Rubbish Game Mechanics

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2014, 09:34 AMKatitof

You can move out before molotov lands. Usually being in close vincinity of non pinned conscripts ends bad for weapon teams, one might have think you could get that after 10 months.

Yeah we all know how extremely easy that is to do every single time, when you combine packing up issues, true sight, and oorah.


PPsh are good only for close range, STG44s are good at all ranges. The days of a-moving pgrens into other infantry are over. Adapt.

Except now the PGren durability nerf means they get picked off from distance, meanwhile PPSH is good enough to still win pretty often up close. If you think PGrens > upgraded conscripts right now, you haven't played enough. Bundled grenade is their only saving grace right now and its pretty expensive for an already munitions intensive faction. The only scenario where PGrens consistently win engagements now (without using bundled nades) is sitting in cover and firing at a squad that is closing them through red or no cover.


Which is funny, because it have less speed then any german tank except tiger and ele.

But after the blitzkrieg nerf its still almost as fast. Sure the faster German tank will eventually get behind it, but only after is almost dead anyway.


If you aren't carefull, you will get fausted. L2P issue here.

Not an L2P issue at all, the infinite range AT nades and fausts have been retarded since day 1, and still are.


If you have 4 models in squad, but 10% healthbar its time to retreat. No, really, its time to retreat.

Strafe is ok, first sensible thing you've said.

SU-85 is a dedicated tank destroyer.
StuG is infantry support gun to support infantry against light armor.

Which was a pretty pointless change since Ostwind is already a infantry and light armor killer.

Which means the patch did its job, because neither faction is supposed to have any advantages.
Its called equality and balance.

Are you kidding? All factions are supposed to have their own unique advantages in a good RTS, hell even some FPS games too. CoH1 Germans had more off map artillery, the veterancy system made it easier to replace lost units, and they had better late game tanks. The Americans had better (though harder to earn) vet, better on map artillery, and T1 upgrades made their basic infantry unit one of the most versatile units in the game compared to the more niche nature of the WM units. In RO2 Rising Storm the Americans get far better weapons, but its fair because the Japanese spawn in very defensible positions. I could go on and on about the faction strengths and weaknesses in War Thunder, and how they balance each other out, but I'm not going to bother. Symmetrical balance in a strategy game is a fucking joke.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2014, 12:48 PMGreenDevil

Are you still trying to convince yourself that CoH2 is a good game and worth all the money you have spent on it? Let me tell you something for nothing, CoH2 is rubbish and so are you.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2014, 14:42 PMVon Kluge

If you have any other remarks a 5yo kid would make, please do so and be done with this shit.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2014, 14:53 PMCruzz

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

But after the blitzkrieg nerf its still almost as fast. Sure the faster German tank will eventually get behind it, but only after is almost dead anyway.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2014, 15:13 PMIpKaiFung

Nope

SU85

Max Speed: 5.7

Panzer 4

Max Speed: 6.3

Panther

Max Speed: 6.6

Speed going forward and speed going backwards uses the same top speed value

Stats from: http://coh2-stats.herokuapp.com/

for illustrative purposes the sherman is 6.7 and thats only a 0.1 difference between the sherman and the panther. A difference of 0.6 and 0.9 is massive.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2014, 15:12 PMKatitof

@Basilone

No, each faction is supposed to have UNIQUE playstyle. Germans still have advantage in AT infantry and long range combat.

Neither is supposed to have any advantages. We've had that kind of balance for past 10 months, didn't proved to be working.

CoH1 balance also isn't important at all, because its not CoH1, its CoH2, the new game.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2014, 16:47 PMBasilone

Reversing SU85 gets off several shots before tank gets behind it. Panther with its higher range and armor usually beats a unsupported SU85, but Pz4 doesn't stand a chance after blitzkrieg change unless he runs out of room to reverse. Using true sight to flank is too risky because if he can't see you that means you can't see his lurking conscripts that are just waiting to AT nade you and then its lights out.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2014, 13:02 PMBurts

yup, its pretty retarded. A shitty su-85 tank destoryer can take down my uber panzer IV 1v1. Bullshit.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2014, 11:43 AMKatitof

I suppose you don't know who mentally ill, indoctrinated, self deluded stalin worshiper sheeps are.

If you'd read some of these comments you'd noticed that not a single one of them is even related to the game.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2014, 11:06 AMCyridius

Actually only one of the top 20 or so comments are in relation to that whole fiasco. And that trend generally continues. All the whole "Russia=Nazi" comments have been pushed down by legitimate criticisms.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2014, 12:49 PMdrChengele

You are describing a scenario in which a Panzer IV, a medium tank, is frontally attacking a su85, a dedicated tank destroyer vulnerable to any direction except its front; and in which the Su85 has ample room to maneuver straight backwards. This is, literally, THE entire purpose of Su85. To take on medium and heavy armour head on from a safe-ish range.

Attacking cumbersome, turretless heavy tank destroyers frontally with medium armour should never result in anything except a smouldering pile of medium armour. I do not mean you, Basilone, but I've noticed there are still some players who think "flanking" an Su85 entails farming vet1, clicking the Blitzkrieg button and then moving up behind the SU through its arc of fire. This is precisely what was wrong with Blitz.