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MadeMan
23 Apr 2014, 19:15 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 18:51 PMShazz

StuG and SU76 changes are a bit perplexing. These two units were already pretty bad and changes on paper seem to make them worse, but will have to see how they synergize with all the other changes.

I was surprised too, mainly at the armour decrease. SU76 did get a penetration buff though, which is very nice in my mind. Considering you can build so many, having them bombard infantry to the stone age, and then mobbing up to attack armour will be more effective too. Maybe they'll be more of a glass cannon style unit, or even just more spammable since they have better offensive capability now?
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Senseo1990
23 Apr 2014, 19:17 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 19:10 PMKatitof


I know, right??

Hingie on official forums already got meltdown.


Hm doesent seem like that to me. He just asked a good question concerning the new range penetration system and is a bit concerned about Panthers.

Scared? Maybe. Meltdown? Naaah :P
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Katitof
23 Apr 2014, 19:20 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 19:17 PMSenseo1990


Hm doesent seem like that to me. He just asked a good question concerning the new range penetration system and is a bit concerned about Panthers.

Scared? Maybe. Meltdown? Naaah :P

Read earlier posts :)

About panther, nothing really will change except with fights with KVs(which already were bad in AT fights) and against IS-2, which will now fiend off panther much more effectively.

I just want to play it and see KV-1.
jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Napalm
23 Apr 2014, 19:29 PM
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The small weapons profile adjustments seem pretty bang on. PQ posted some sexy charts and stuff.

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elchino7
23 Apr 2014, 19:31 PM
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We should wait to plat the patch but:

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 18:16 PMAerohank
the howitzer changes seem like a flat out nerf. Which was the last thing these units needed. What was wrong with destroying someones base with artillery? It's barely useful against moving targets if your opponent had a brain and did not blob up against a player with a howitzer.


Copypasta.


Changing a bit the subject: no one said anything regarding the Howitzers ?

I hate the mechanic of you are fucked without an offmap because it´s sitting inside the enemy base and recon + offmap equal easy goodbye howitzer. The thing that many german doctrines have either cheap (light arty) or abundant offmaps in several good commanders is something a bit annoying.

With this changes, how would it play having artillery with less range but being cheaper?

I hope this is just a first step.

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 18:08 PMAbdul
It seems there are some good improvements to infantry. Engineers cost less, scout car cost less and has more health and penetration. Cons can do more damage. Guards cost less and upgrade for less.


Brace yourselves...M3 + Engineer + Guard spam is comming. Huehuehue.


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Napalm
23 Apr 2014, 19:33 PM
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Howitzer's were already questionable. The value proposition just went down further on them. No biggy.

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Tristan44
23 Apr 2014, 19:35 PM
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Exactly! Ugh!! I love all on map arty and now it's not efficient whatsoever.
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Abdul
23 Apr 2014, 19:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 19:31 PMelchino7


Brace yourselves...M3 + Engineer + Guard spam is comming. Huehuehue.




u forgot sniper
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Napalm
23 Apr 2014, 19:40 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 19:35 PMTristan44
Exactly! Ugh!! I love all on map arty and now it's not efficient whatsoever.


It's effective *only* if you know what commander the opposing player has picked. The value proposition remains low though. Using a rocket truck has the same results but is cheaper and mobile. I hope relic address's Arty in the future.

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Katitof
23 Apr 2014, 19:41 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 19:31 PMelchino7
Brace yourselves...M3 + Engineer + Guard spam is comming. Huehuehue.

In case you haven't played over the last month, its already here because its the only viable strat :P
jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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DarthBong420
23 Apr 2014, 19:44 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 19:40 PMNapalm


It's effective *only* if you know what commander the opposing player has picked. The value proposition remains low though. Using a rocket truck has the same results but is cheaper and mobile. I hope relic address's Arty in the future.

they are waiting for Brits to sell more Royal Arty Commanders.
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ferrozoica
23 Apr 2014, 19:45 PM
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The tank changes look very nice indeed. Looking forward to trying them out!
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Kreatiir
23 Apr 2014, 19:45 PM
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Arty was fine..
It has an easy counter with katties or long range mortars , kv 8 rush,..
I dont like the nerfs.
I am eager to play, but I fear for the arty.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
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Sedghammer
23 Apr 2014, 19:51 PM
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Looks great, can't wait to try it out!
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MajorasLiepa
23 Apr 2014, 20:09 PM
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I like that M5 now going to came much faster.yay.
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pigsoup
23 Apr 2014, 20:10 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 18:03 PMKronosaur0s
Woooooooooooooooow nice german nerf, extremely ultra good buff to the ISU152, now he has better penetration and same health than Elef. Prepare your anus to see more ISU152's, you dont have elefant? say GG xD



elephant pen: 400. vs. isu 152 pen: 230.

400 > 230...

as a proud asian, i am personally offended that a literate person can be this bad at math.

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Kronosaur0s
23 Apr 2014, 20:13 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 20:10 PMpigsoup



elephant pen: 400. vs. isu 152 pen: 230.

400 > 230...

as a proud asian, i am personally offended that a literate person can be this bad at math.

ps. patch looks nice. can't wait to try it.


Figured some smartass would point this out. I wasnt comparing the pens of both tanks, only the health.
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The_rEd_bEar
23 Apr 2014, 20:20 PM
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I want to try su76 spam now.
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pigsoup
23 Apr 2014, 20:22 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 20:13 PMKronosaur0s


Figured some smartass would point this out. I wasnt comparing the pens of both tanks, only the health.


"better penetration and same health"

im sorry. i have no idea where i got ideas about penetration from. it must be one of those quarter age alzheimer people talk about. or it must be my damn restless leg syndrome interfering my brain activity.



















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TNrg
23 Apr 2014, 20:28 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Apr 2014, 18:53 PMKyle


I mean for god sake G43 is a long range Rifle, WITH SCOPE. I mean SCOPE for better aiming at far range, not to be god as medium and close.



I think if the G43 grens have scopes then it's just lazyness on Relic's part to make a different G43 model without the scope for grens and using the sniper's G43 model :D
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