Patch notes - April 24 Update - Balance Notes
23 Apr 2014, 17:06 PM
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23 Apr 2014, 17:24 PM
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LOL wtf? Balance ruined. GG Relic.
23 Apr 2014, 17:28 PM
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This is long
Some things no one was talking about (artillery)
But changes to infantry and tanks seem to be what people wanted, German armour especially now costs more fuel giving an incentive to keep infantry in the late game (or spam cargo trucks)
Soviet armour seems a lot better, and the units that really need hold fire have finally got it
Looking foward to this
Some things no one was talking about (artillery)
But changes to infantry and tanks seem to be what people wanted, German armour especially now costs more fuel giving an incentive to keep infantry in the late game (or spam cargo trucks)
Soviet armour seems a lot better, and the units that really need hold fire have finally got it
Looking foward to this
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PS: The Italian Army fought with courage and skill
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PS: The Italian Army fought with courage and skill
23 Apr 2014, 18:06 PM
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Some tank changes are strange, almost all vehicles and tanks lost some HP and damage and increase in armor and penetration.
I dont understand why IS-2 got it's damage reduced since it's reload is still very high.
Why T34-76 got reload increase, it's useless by now, and T34-85 haven't changed.
I really have bad feeling about this new patch
I dont understand why IS-2 got it's damage reduced since it's reload is still very high.
Why T34-76 got reload increase, it's useless by now, and T34-85 haven't changed.
I really have bad feeling about this new patch
23 Apr 2014, 18:18 PM
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If this shit isn't an April fool joke, okay.
GG, Papaland, you did well in April.
Triple nerf on Gren and Blitz = removed, nerf in P4, Tiger and StuG, already useless LefH NERF.
Why don't you just remove Ostheer and give us West German now?
GG, Papaland, you did well in April.
Triple nerf on Gren and Blitz = removed, nerf in P4, Tiger and StuG, already useless LefH NERF.
Why don't you just remove Ostheer and give us West German now?
23 Apr 2014, 18:31 PM
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Why T34-76 got reload increase, it's useless by now, and T34-85 haven't changed.
The increased armour and penetration as well as main gun damage on the T34-76 still means it's useless?
23 Apr 2014, 18:37 PM
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Some tank changes are strange, almost all vehicles and tanks lost some HP and damage and increase in armor and penetration.
I dont understand why IS-2 got it's damage reduced since it's reload is still very high.
Why T34-76 got reload increase, it's useless by now, and T34-85 haven't changed.
I really have bad feeling about this new patch
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23 Apr 2014, 18:37 PM
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Rifle-grenade cost increased to better align it with similar grenades, such as the RGD-42 which cost 30 munitions. Although the rifle-grenade has a greater range than the RGD-42, its explosive radius is smaller and less lethal.
Rifle-grenade munition cost from 25 to 30
Weapon Teams
Previously, weapon teams would receive +25% more damage from all sources. This modifier has been replaced with a +25% received accuracy value. Tank fire and grenades will be less effective vs. weapon teams as a result; small arms fire remains relatively unchanged.
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These two changes combined should help reduce the insane performance of rifle grenades vs. Maxims.
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How come Pak43 got hold-fire but Pak 40 and Zis didn't?
Rifle-grenade munition cost from 25 to 30
Weapon Teams
Previously, weapon teams would receive +25% more damage from all sources. This modifier has been replaced with a +25% received accuracy value. Tank fire and grenades will be less effective vs. weapon teams as a result; small arms fire remains relatively unchanged.
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These two changes combined should help reduce the insane performance of rifle grenades vs. Maxims.
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How come Pak43 got hold-fire but Pak 40 and Zis didn't?
23 Apr 2014, 18:38 PM
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You guys have to realise armoured combat works entirely different now.
23 Apr 2014, 18:39 PM
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Barton can't understand swenglish
23 Apr 2014, 18:42 PM
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The increased armour and penetration as well as main gun damage on the T34-76 still means it's useless?
each german armour got p;enetration buff, even Pak40, so armor increase on T34/76 doesnt mean much, penetration and damage increase might change the thing but 2 sec reload increase is too much for this tank
23 Apr 2014, 18:43 PM
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If this shit isn't an April fool joke, okay.
GG, Papaland, you did well in April.
Triple nerf on Gren and Blitz = removed, nerf in P4, Tiger and StuG, already useless LefH NERF.
Why don't you just remove Ostheer and give us West German now?
Yes this is a huge step back from the perfect ostheer balance we have now.
23 Apr 2014, 18:47 PM
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This is probably the missing piece of the pie to truely understand the changes
Vehicle Penetration
Vehicle penetration is now based on distance to target. High velocity weapons have a lower drop off than low velocity. High explosive weapons do not drop off over distance.
and
AOE Profiles
Very similar to the changes made to grenade AOE profiles. Long and mid-range AOE no longer has a chance to miss its target, the weapon profile damage has been averaged out to compensate. Slight adjustments to AOE radius or distance values were made on a number of vehicles to better align them with their intended performance.
So not sure what weapon profiles the armor has because evidently that makes a diff.
I agree though adding armor to the T34/76 and it still gets pen by just about everything frontally at their optimal ranges. But maybe better at the longest ranges and against different weapons.
Vehicle Penetration
Vehicle penetration is now based on distance to target. High velocity weapons have a lower drop off than low velocity. High explosive weapons do not drop off over distance.
and
AOE Profiles
Very similar to the changes made to grenade AOE profiles. Long and mid-range AOE no longer has a chance to miss its target, the weapon profile damage has been averaged out to compensate. Slight adjustments to AOE radius or distance values were made on a number of vehicles to better align them with their intended performance.
So not sure what weapon profiles the armor has because evidently that makes a diff.
I agree though adding armor to the T34/76 and it still gets pen by just about everything frontally at their optimal ranges. But maybe better at the longest ranges and against different weapons.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
23 Apr 2014, 18:50 PM
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Weaker StuGs for 80 fuel? Fuel increase on the T-34? Now Germans spam assault guns against some T-34? This is pretty much the opposite direction it should be.
Oh and I´m probably not going to build a Panther any longer. I shit on lousy 10% more armor and normal hp only after vet 2. Better to go T3 instead and swarm the enemy with even more easily killable StuGs.
And as if an IS-2 and ISU-152 shooting every 10 seconds wasn´t ridiculous enough, their reload times goes down even further!
Oh and I´m probably not going to build a Panther any longer. I shit on lousy 10% more armor and normal hp only after vet 2. Better to go T3 instead and swarm the enemy with even more easily killable StuGs.
And as if an IS-2 and ISU-152 shooting every 10 seconds wasn´t ridiculous enough, their reload times goes down even further!
23 Apr 2014, 18:53 PM
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stug isn't the same stug you know in prepatch build.
Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) Caffeine illegal for WiFi's to ingest in 48 states, 2 colonies, and 1 providences. To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war!
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