Does Luftwaffe Have Any Potential?
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-You divert heavy amounts of fuel and manpower into emplacements that run a very high risk of being taken over by the enemy.
-Terrain is often misleading, what may look like a great place to plant an 88 flak that can shoot across the map may really be blocked off by an "invisible wall".
-Butterfly bombs are pretty useless against everything but small vehicles.
-Ambush ability with Falsch is really cool, but not really effective enough. Plus their ability to be deployed in any building is severely gimped on some levels with few buildings, and PE's strength comes from using your units in unison (Zeal).
Despite all this I still REALLY like the idea of the Luftwaffe, but often find myself disregarding it entirely for TD or SE. Does anybody know of a good guide or perhaps have some good points themselves on how to use Luftwaffe effectively?
Edit: Oh, and I mean in 1v1 and 2v2 primarily. Any strategy above that (3v3, 4v4) is generally just cheesy and unimpressive in my book.
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Falls with FG-42s are some of the best anti-infantry in the game, albeit without good grenades. Especially with offensive vet they can tear through rifles like it's nothing. Add that onto the ability to deploy on any building on the map and they are very useful at tearing apart infantry.
Finally Camo on Ketten is great for harass and for keeping your kettenkrads alive and worthwhile late game. Do not underestimate how good ketten camo is, squads have to be ridiculously close to discover them, so toggle it off to quickly drive far enough away then toggle it on to prevent the rifles from shooting it during the escape.
It's not always the right doctrine, but it can be very powerful, specifically having advanced repairs that early in the game at a low cost.
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Luftwaffe Tactics is generally the most useless doctrine you can go with PE.
Just where did you hear that? It's not true at all.
Luftwaffe is one of the most powerful doctrine in the game for sure, especially early and mid game with its usefull and strong units call in. It can be good late game too with Flak 88 (situational) or Henschel 129 (which makes enemy armor become nearly useless)
A Fall squad hidden in cover in some far away points can wipe out whole enemy squad if your opponent fail to notice even a second.
Butterfly bombs can be used to reduce enemy sniper's effectiveness too.
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I have often thought, and often heard, that Luftwaffe Tactics is generally the most useless doctrine you can go with PE.
What a trash post
All your arguments are wrong.. Do you watch replays ? or youtube videos ?
Emplacements have never been a solution, especially with PE faction, which is supposed to win games on its maneuverability.
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-You divert heavy amounts of fuel and manpower into emplacements that run a very high risk of being taken over by the enemy.
The Flakvierling 38 is pretty much useless. Never saw it. The Flak 36 can be very usefull (more in 2vs2 then in 1vs1 i thik) but depends on your strategy. Of course you will have to protect it but its a second line weapon anyway.
-Butterfly bombs are pretty useless against everything but small vehicles.
Wrong. Its an very powerfull ability, very usefull vs infanterie.
-Ambush ability with Falsch is really cool, but not really effective enough. Plus their ability to be deployed in any building is severely gimped on some levels with few buildings, and PE's strength comes from using your units in unison (Zeal).
Fallschirmjäger are one of the strongest infanterie in game. With ambush the kill everything, even vet 3 rifles.
Also i miss the cloaked krad. Also very strong, more in 2vs2 then in 1vs1, like the 88.
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luftwaffe are supreme when it comes to repairing and capping.
falls with fg42s tear through rifles and tommies, especially when in cover
butterfly bombs are very good and are deployed over a large area
late game flak and hänschel obliterate any allies armor
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Thanks for the constructive replies though. I guess I have always thought that the intended highlight of Luftwaffe was the emplacements. I guess I just think that TD and SE can do much more with their call ins and the double panzershreks on grenadiers is just absolute man-mode. I'll have to try using Falsch to their full potential, as it sounds like they are the crutch to this doctrine?
At any rate thanks.
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other than that, I like the LW field troops (repair, heavy flak) and ketten. 1-2 FJ's are ok in a pinch....
The wirbelwind is junk and so are the butterfly bombs.
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The thing I like most about LW is the Henschel strafing run. It's sick...
other than that, I like the LW field troops (repair, heavy flak) and ketten. 1-2 FJ's are ok in a pinch....
The wirbelwind is junk and so are the butterfly bombs.
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I think LW might be better for 1 v 1 than say, 4 v 4 (with lots of armor)
And you think wrong good sir.
The more players, the more usefull the kettenkrad is.. So you can actually spot for your team mates' V1, firestorm, etc... Same as the Henschel run.
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And you think wrong good sir.
The more players, the more usefull the kettenkrad is.. So you can actually spot for your team mates' V1, firestorm, etc... Same as the Henschel run.
And cloacked kettenkrad + wehr sniper = WSC US player tears.
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