Elite Troops
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Simple question how stop them? Cons are dying so fast I cant even put MG in right position.
Elite inf are avaible from 2 CP so the only way is MGs spam but army created only with MG wont handle. I could go T1 and use snipers but I also need ZiS and MGs. building T1 and T2 isnt wise in 2v2 (I guess)
So how beat germans who are using elite troops doctrine?
Btw why soviets need upgrade (at nades/ptrs) to stun permanently/temporarily vehicles while germans can use panzerfaust with no additional requirements?
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Remember that everytime he vets a squad he spends 80MP and 20 fuel. So if he's vetted 3 squads he's spent 240 MP and 60 fuel which is going to significantly delay his tech, and deny him an additional unit on the field. So taking that into account, it's not as necessary to get a Pak out as quickly, provided that you're still harassing his fuel income.
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I usually go guard motor T1-T3 and get 2 snipers to guards and T34 as quick as possible. My partner mixes up his doc some, but he always tech's T2-T4 to compliment with Maxim's and SU-85's with cons for capping power and an early shield for my snipers.
2 well micro'd snipers can easily fend off 2 vet LMG gren squads. G43's are a different story... It gets harder with 3+ squads coming at you or if they choose to vet a mortar which is essentially a homing missile at vet 3.
Guards are a great counter for the scout car or flame HT so you can delay the Zis a bit longer. I still find the 120mm mortar better than the 82mm even with the recent nerf. It still has a great chance to wipe a squad which is even more key against Elite since they're most likely purchasing vet.
To Neph's point you really have to harass their map control, specifically the fuel. The longer you let the Elite commander stay in the game the harder it's going to get if they're keeping units alive. I don't even worry about the Ace anymore, I worry about seeing multiple vet 2 or 3 P4's backed by all that vet infantry...
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The amount of Fuel expent will be gained by map territory.
My suggestion... making elite troops vet ability to 3CP would be fair. You will not break the early game.
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nuff said
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This pic is hilarious. I laughed out loud during a boring seminar. Did you make it?
(Sry, a bit offtopic)
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When im German with this doctrine i love vetting a mortar because it becomes a homing missile.
However, how do you handle those mortarts as soviet? When i have a vet 1 mortar around its easy with precision barrage or if i can flank them with a vehicle if no at or grens with fausts are around. Are there other viable options?
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Snipers, mines, and demo charges. None of these things care how vetted the enemy infantry are.
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Also don't troops gain vet faster when they fight vetted troops? I read that somewhere in a similar thread, if you go shocks or guards...vet3 courtesy of the elite doctrine.
Btw why soviets need upgrade (at nades/ptrs) to stun permanently/temporarily vehicles while germans can use panzerfaust with no additional requirements?
Because you play an easy faction to win with, so relic put handicaps for balance.
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This pic is hilarious. I laughed out loud during a boring seminar. Did you make it?
(Sry, a bit offtopic)
no he did not someone else did the guy made a whole bunch of them. to bad he hasn't made any recently. (let me find the link, can't find the thread )
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Guards to prevent vehicle rushes.
That's the safest way to deal with these triplestarred guys.
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Today I had really ridiculous game. 2v2 agasint germans with elite troops doctrine. After 4-6mins they attacked with 2 gren squads 3 vet upgraded with MG.
Simple question how stop them? Cons are dying so fast I cant even put MG in right position.
Elite inf are avaible from 2 CP so the only way is MGs spam but army created only with MG wont handle. I could go T1 and use snipers but I also need ZiS and MGs. building T1 and T2 isnt wise in 2v2 (I guess)
So how beat germans who are using elite troops doctrine?
Btw why soviets need upgrade (at nades/ptrs) to stun permanently/temporarily vehicles while germans can use panzerfaust with no additional requirements?
I use Elite Troops will the time when I play Germans but I never vet any of my units. I use the doctrine mainly for the Stun Nades, Smoke, G43, and last of all the beautiful Tiger Ace!
I encountered alot of sniper spamming in 2v2, a smart person would just endure the pain and keep pushing. Those who rage and get frustrated at the sniper spam will have problems.
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