Train them! Excite them! Arm them!...Then turn them loose on the Nazis!!
The Dirty 1/2 Dozen, the manliest squad in the Soviet Union, is deployed to City 17, their mission: destroy the Nazi army, all of it. They do not disappoint. After routing the heavily entrenched east flank, the Dirty 1/2 Dozen deals the coup de grace a mere 11 minutes into this 4v4 battle.
http://www.coh2.org/replays/14539/doc-rockwell-s-penal-clinic-the-dirty-12-dozen
Penal Battalions - trust me, you're using them wrong
26 Feb 2014, 10:32 AM
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26 Feb 2014, 10:47 AM
#2
Posts: 230
>>>/replays/
26 Feb 2014, 16:59 PM
#3
Posts: 194
I'm not using them at all. So, no 
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26 Feb 2014, 17:56 PM
#4
Posts: 157
Oorah! at vet 2 and 45 muni mini demo charge? yes please.
26 Feb 2014, 18:08 PM
#5
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Oorah! at vet 2 and 45 muni mini demo charge? yes please.
I'd rather have oorah at vet0, 240mp ppsh and/or HTD squad that also have AT nades.
There is not much point to "45 muni mini demo charge" when it can't even demo a bunker and since battle servers were introduced, you won't be hitting infantry with it either.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
26 Feb 2014, 19:47 PM
#6
Posts: 157
I'd rather have oorah at vet0, 240mp ppsh and/or HTD squad that also have AT nades.
There is not much point to "45 muni mini demo charge" when it can't even demo a bunker and since battle servers were introduced, you won't be hitting infantry with it either.
O RLY? Blew up 2 squads of assault grenadiers with it last time I played a 1v1. I also get scripts, it's nice to have 1 of these around for mgs in buildins and sneak attack/demo charges.
26 Feb 2014, 19:58 PM
#7
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if only they allowed for drive by satchels. 
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26 Feb 2014, 20:33 PM
#8
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O RLY? Blew up 2 squads of assault grenadiers with it last time I played a 1v1. I also get scripts, it's nice to have 1 of these around for mgs in buildins and sneak attack/demo charges.
Then german player was extremely unaware.
With current low imput lag its really hard not to dodge nades, not to mention satchels.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
26 Feb 2014, 21:05 PM
#9
Posts: 307
I only use them if I don't care if we win or not
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26 Feb 2014, 21:09 PM
#10
Posts: 157
Then german player was extremely unaware.
With current low imput lag its really hard not to dodge nades, not to mention satchels.
lead them around the side of a building, as soon as they turn corner.... BOOM.
27 Feb 2014, 00:03 AM
#11
Posts: 879
I just like to say "penals" over and over again in a creepy voice on vent.
27 Feb 2014, 00:08 AM
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Hmmm can you throw satchel from inside M3s ?
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And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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27 Feb 2014, 00:18 AM
#13
Posts: 258
Guards are better imo, they can kill vehicles, bunkers, have button skill, more armor, and guard nade can instagib more reliably than satchel, if you throw it at right moment. Penals are crappy until they get at least vet2
27 Feb 2014, 00:57 AM
#14
Posts: 60
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImcoiS3nRo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
This is what I'm talking about (clip from the replay in OP)
This is what I'm talking about (clip from the replay in OP)
27 Feb 2014, 01:19 AM
#15
Posts: 182
This forum needs a psychedelic drug limit before posting.
You were fighting stationary weapon teams with a halftrack and 2 penals. If you pit up penals vs pretty much any combination of units that deal direct damage they will generally not give you your moneys worth and even less so if they're not cruisin around in your super clown mobile. For 2 penals worth you could have 2 mg's and a gren. Who do you think would win this engagement?
You were fighting stationary weapon teams with a halftrack and 2 penals. If you pit up penals vs pretty much any combination of units that deal direct damage they will generally not give you your moneys worth and even less so if they're not cruisin around in your super clown mobile. For 2 penals worth you could have 2 mg's and a gren. Who do you think would win this engagement?
27 Feb 2014, 14:01 PM
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Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImcoiS3nRo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
This is what I'm talking about (clip from the replay in OP)
Umm, satcheling a 4v4 noob who spams mortars is hardly an indicator of penal usefulness.
Against half decent opponent you wouldn't make it half way to germans base and even if penals could do it reliably, its still not any justification for them.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
27 Feb 2014, 14:41 PM
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Posts: 1734
Permanently Bannedpenals has no really counter in early game, only mg and sniper maybe, but in lategame they die fast because of conscript armor, and noone have time for merge them with conscripts.(at base too)
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27 Feb 2014, 14:50 PM
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penals has no really counter in early game, only mg and sniper maybe, but in lategame they die fast because of conscript armor, and noone have time for merge them with conscripts.(at base too)
MG42, snipers, LMG grens or simply dual grens and if soviet went for penals, you will easily have 2 grens for each penal.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
27 Feb 2014, 14:53 PM
#19
Posts: 1734
Permanently Banned
MG42, snipers, LMG grens or simply dual grens and if soviet went for penals, you will easily have 2 grens for each penal.
noone spam penal LOL
i mean like 3 cons 1 penal, and if that one penal meats against 1 gren, guess who will win(guess first then read the rest) (btw it will beat lmg gren)
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27 Feb 2014, 15:22 PM
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Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
noone spam penal LOL
i mean like 3 cons 1 penal, and if that one penal meats against 1 gren, guess who will win(guess first then read the rest) (btw it will beat lmg gren)
Oh don't worry about that, due to cost, time to build and T1 cost you will always have better field presence.
And no, it will not beat LMG gren. It could if 0 models died, but it will loose models rapidly, loosing dps just as fast.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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