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How does a German player deal with this?

20 Feb 2014, 02:27 AM
#1
avatar of LionRed

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As a German player I am having a difficult time dealing with a 1 minute scout car w/sniper and followed by a 6 minute T34/76 Medium Tank? In the same game....
....and then another T34/75 at 8 min mark.

Damn..I might have this in the wrong forum section.
20 Feb 2014, 03:23 AM
#2
avatar of Tristan44

Posts: 915

One of the harder strats to deal with. It relies on a lot of luck on german side and some mistakes by soviet player. I will say if he goes sniper scout car, his field presence is low. Cap around him a lot, try to stay away from the sniper and retreat if he has a good LoS on you. Get a mortar and go tier 2 at gun to try and shoot the scout car. Try some flanking manuvers, go around and use the Truesight to your advantage.
20 Feb 2014, 03:32 AM
#3
avatar of Porygon

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Ragequit MVGame
20 Feb 2014, 08:04 AM
#4
avatar of rmag37

Posts: 39

I.... 6 minutes? T34 at 6 minutes? This is a thing?
20 Feb 2014, 08:15 AM
#5
avatar of LionRed

Posts: 37

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 08:04 AMrmag37
I.... 6 minutes? T34 at 6 minutes? This is a thing?


He got one at 6 min...8 min and 10 min (like clockwork). I watched the replay and was pretty stunned when I saw the time frame.

This was in a 2vs2 auto match....they were a team (played together and used voip). My team was me and a stranger vs them.

Was rather amusing when he said he heard German scout car deals with the Russian scout car and sniper. Which it does...but at one minute into the game....I had nothing that to counter it.
20 Feb 2014, 08:32 AM
#6
avatar of Marcus2389
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Are you sure they didn't use Soviet Industry? That doctrine is currently bugged and gives you the extra fuel from 0 CP instead of 3 CP.
20 Feb 2014, 08:41 AM
#7
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

This is definetly the soviet industy tank rush strat. Sniper/m3 to harass then two fuel caches to T3. Definetly OP but, it shouldn't be doable in the new patch.

edit:btw, I find the best way to kill the M3 sniper is to use his low unit presence to sneak a gren behind it as early as possible then chase it back into the flanking gren with a second.
20 Feb 2014, 08:50 AM
#8
avatar of bogeuh

Posts: 89

first of, you cant win vs an organised team its always them 2 vs 1 of you

m3A+sniper is 2 units; never use 1 squad
you don't expect to win with a gren vs 2 scripts either

and M3A is horrible to control with the fixed guns it always turns on its own to face the enemey and fucks up its own getaway path, so ambush works well against it.

m3A scout shines vs lone squads, unprotected support weapons

wouldn't be the first time i lose an m3A to a mortarhit while shooting at grens
and also wouldn't be the first time squads get wiped out because they don't retreat

you hear a car? set up ambushes, if you manage to faust it, its dead



you knwo what my problem is in pickupgames

people (playing soviets 3v3 or 4v4) that don't prepare for heavy endgame tanks and then are surprised they lose mapcontrol and the game.

no matter how the first part of the game went, its the one that wins the tankwar that wins the game.



Neo
20 Feb 2014, 09:32 AM
#9
avatar of Neo

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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 02:27 AMLionRed
As a German player I am having a difficult time dealing with a 1 minute scout car w/sniper and followed by a 6 minute T34/76 Medium Tank? In the same game....
....and then another T34/75 at 8 min mark.

Damn..I might have this in the wrong forum section.


There's no such tank as T34/75. If you mean T34/85 there is absolutely no way he could have got that at 8 minutes because it's 9CP to call in.

20 Feb 2014, 09:50 AM
#10
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 09:32 AMNeo


There's no such tank as T34/75. If you mean T34/85 there is absolutely no way he could have got that at 8 minutes because it's 9CP to call in.



And that makes it quite obvious that he didn't mean t34/85

especially since he said: 'followed by a 6 minute T34/76 Medium Tank? In the same game....
....and then another T34/75 at 8 min mark.'

I mean :rolleyes:
20 Feb 2014, 09:58 AM
#11
avatar of LionRed

Posts: 37

At 6 min 8 min and 10 min he was calling in a t34 at each time.

I watched the replay cause I remember playing and the tank attacking me at just before 8 mins. Thinking holy shit!

sheesh...had them built by that time 6, 8 and 10 min.
Neo
20 Feb 2014, 10:32 AM
#12
avatar of Neo

Posts: 471

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 09:58 AMLionRed
At 6 min 8 min and 10 min he was calling in a t34 at each time.

I watched the replay cause I remember playing and the tank attacking me at just before 8 mins. Thinking holy shit!

sheesh...had them built by that time 6, 8 and 10 min.


Yeah, Windustry is bugged and still OP. Hope for a hotfix.
20 Feb 2014, 10:45 AM
#13
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 10:32 AMNeo


Yeah, Windustry is bugged and still OP. Hope for a hotfix.

Bugged? First I'm hearing about it. What's wrong?
20 Feb 2014, 10:51 AM
#14
avatar of Eupolemos
Donator 33

Posts: 368

Are you sure they didn't use Soviet Industry? That doctrine is currently bugged and gives you the extra fuel from 0 CP instead of 3 CP.


Oh, ffs... :*(
20 Feb 2014, 10:51 AM
#15
avatar of Aradan

Posts: 1003

jump backJump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 02:27 AMLionRed
As a German player I am having a difficult time dealing with a 1 minute scout car w/sniper and followed by a 6 minute T34/76 Medium Tank? In the same game....
....and then another T34/75 at 8 min mark.

Damn..I might have this in the wrong forum section.


Tech for T2 and build scout car. Sniper mean no ZiS-3 and if he rush for T-34/76, he dont have AT grenade and slow yourself with M3. Guards come on 2CP and you have time destroy this pesky car (gold old jeep and motorbike).
20 Feb 2014, 10:53 AM
#16
avatar of bogeuh

Posts: 89

its a commander that is strong in teamgames, you need another player to be your infantry while bulding tanks in preparation for endgame.


you can build T3 or T4 and tanks even before you get 3CP for windustry !
most of the time i cancel the tank that is building, pick the industry at 3 cp and build the tank again (insta tank build time)

all you need to do is sacrifice infantry for fuelcashes

ANY commander can do this, you don't need soviet industry

what industry gives you is lots of fuel to keep pumping out tanks, and other commanders get other perks
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