Shocktroops at 1CP

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2014, 21:51 PMTristan44

The more I play against early shocks the less if an issue I have. You just got to figure out how to counter them, getting a sniper and keeping it alive is the best strat. I have been using this build every game lately and it has done wonders; 1 gren 1 mg (go to fuel and hold or harass a little with gren) then sniper. The sniper really scares soviet players and forces them to make a decision they probably don't want to make. They either got to forget about going shocks and get that sniper off the field or go shocks and bite the bullet. Either way getting an early supported sniper puts the OH player in the drivers seat a bit and forces a reaction from soviet.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2014, 21:51 PMTristan44

The more I play against early shocks the less if an issue I have. You just got to figure out how to counter them, getting a sniper and keeping it alive is the best strat. I have been using this build every game lately and it has done wonders; 1 gren 1 mg (go to fuel and hold or harass a little with gren) then sniper. The sniper really scares soviet players and forces them to make a decision they probably don't want to make. They either got to forget about going shocks and get that sniper off the field or go shocks and bite the bullet. Either way getting an early supported sniper puts the OH player in the drivers seat a bit and forces a reaction from soviet.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 07:43 AMGeneral TheoDErich

MG, Gren and Sniper does mean 4 Cons on the field at the same time. One attack with only 3 of them forces of your mg because 1 gren cant stop them and sniper might shoot maximum 3 times before he has to retreat as well. Do not really see how thats going to help, unless you play really passive and hand most of the map without a fight to the soviet. Sniper is great against shocks, but only with a solid frontline he can hide behind so he can take shots as he pleases. he is not the stopping power himself!

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 08:15 AMlink0

Don't retreat your sniper. You can run between shots to keep your distance.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 09:19 AMLe Wish

The few 1v1s I have played, I can make it work, but in 2v2s (most players play teamgames...) the guard shock combo is quite nasty to deal with. Not saying its impossible, but it is an uphill struggle if they play very aggressive.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 09:40 AMGeneral TheoDErich

Thats true, even more, when you are not expecting this strategy and both players go for a normal gren start... then they just poke away with their 2/3 snipers, forcing you to retreat all the time. Scoutcars are no counter because of the guards. Best way to counter might be a sniper of your own, but if you just blindly build a sniper in the beginning and russians use normal conscript-start your not well off either ... (in 2v2s that is)
and the shocks just mow down the rest

any better ideas than to counter this with your own sniper/ snipers?

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 09:47 AMAradan

Good sniper counter is grenadiers riflegrenade and mortar. If soviet have T1 = no maxim, no mortars, no ZiS.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 09:47 AMAradan

Good sniper counter is grenadiers riflegrenade and mortar. If soviet have T1 = no maxim, no mortars, no ZiS.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 10:24 AMLe Wish

We are still speaking teamgames. One goes t1 the other t2, so the problem is still there.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 10:24 AMLe Wish

We are still speaking teamgames. One goes t1 the other t2, so the problem is still there.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2013, 18:29 PMcataclaw

No, but one Pgren and Gren can, if you let the grens buffert the damage.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 11:03 AMAradan

I missing natural counters jeep and motorbike. Gold CoH1.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 14:03 PMJames Hale

Like T1 Scout Car?

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2014, 21:51 PMTristan44

The more I play against early shocks the less if an issue I have

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2014, 15:36 PMRhaegal

completely agree we just needed to get used to the meta in fact shocks aren't being spammed like before(at least in my 10 last games),though i think that is somehow wrong that elite troops are available at such an early stage of the game, guards are actually really an issue on 1cp, i mean there is a counter to everything in the game but i'm pretty sure that if a doctrine made pgrens availble at 1cp a lot of soviets would rage and whine in some post in here