Patch Notes Discussion (Dec. 10th)

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:04 PMNullist

Most of the "complaining" about PPSH's was apparent specifically in threads where some Sov bois wanted the old overpowered PPSH to be CP1. Serious posters where so busy debunking and damage controlling in those threads they never even got a chance to post "PPSH needs nerf" threads, and the resultant animosity and trolling from those same Sov posters to even one such thread would have been absolutely enormous.

And there where MANY of those. Repeatedly, people tried to push the old PPSH to CP1.

There, the complaints against PPSH where mostly expressed in a desperate effort to prevent their change to CP1 with the old stats. Not that the Sov bois acknowledged even one inch of those.

Imagine if I had posted a PPSH nerf thread a month ago. Imagine the reaction.
I got called all kinds of shit for resisting and arguing against the old PPSH being changed to CP1, as they wanted... Guess who was right in the end?

As much as you may hate me and think I'm an asshat, take it from me as someone who has read everything since launch on Central Coh2 tab. Thats how its happened.

Hilarious, in retrospect. How completely out of touch so much balance discussion actually is. I am eternally glad and grateful that Relics real balance team, yet again, cuts through the bullshit and is really centrally concerned with actual real issues, time and time again they have delivered on those.

DLC Commanders, obviously not withstanding, but those are by another guy, and financially motivated. Unfortunate, but the real balance team is still delivering sterling patches that really, seriously, improve the game patch after patch.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:17 PMFeelMemoryAcceptance

If you seriously believe that the MG was doing something before patch, I think you should stop playing this game as soviets only

---------> I'm rank 8 with axis in 1 vs 1 and 8 with soviet in 1 vs 1.

Yes, mg 42 was a support weapow, like a gun use for support your army, grens maybe ?

i used Mg 42 in map like langres, it was very powerfull, and i use one mg 42 in map like kholodyny, because it's a map with not lot "old" buildings.

It's very funny to see some guys find Mg 42 useless in the game before patch, they maybe don't understand the sence of support weapon, MG 42 was very powerfull before patch in close map if you used this unit like a support weapon.




PS : And i forget to say : Mg 42 suppress faster maxim, it's true, the suppression of mg 42 was increase by 10 % you remember ?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:02 PMCieZ

Please keep in mind that this was a bug fix, not a nerf. Old ppsh were extremely over powered. Anyone that didn't realize this was either really dense or quite slow... Also plenty of people complained about them, including myself. So yeah. Deal with it.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:48 PMGreeb

Ok, then new PPSH is worse than LMG and G43, right?

Well, is cheaper and probably appear faster or at least at the same time.
It seems fair to me, I don't understand the fuss about the change.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:54 PMNoun

Some of you may have noticed but we left some stuff out of our December 10th notes.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/67-coh-2-changelog/page2 (last post)

Apologies. We're looking at improving our internal process so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:54 PMNoun

Some of you may have noticed but we left some stuff out of our December 10th notes.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/67-coh-2-changelog/page2 (last post)

Apologies. We're looking at improving our internal process so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.

well in this patch tough radio intercept its a lvl 0 skill it does not work until you reach lvl 1, how do you communicate this bug?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:55 PMc r u C e

The "fuss" is Conscripts can't stand their ground anymore,not until the first unit of LMGGrens,G43Grens,PGrens,AssGrens hit the field while at the same price of 240 MP Grens can counter Shocks or Guards or whatever...
This is called balanced for you,right?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:55 PMc r u C e

The "fuss" is Conscripts can't stand their ground anymore,not until the first unit of LMGGrens,G43Grens,PGrens,AssGrens hit the field while at the same price of 240 MP Grens can counter Shocks or Guards or whatever...
This is called balanced for you,right?

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 17:03 PMPaRaNo1a

Grens can`t win vs Shocks this is redonkeylous

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 17:07 PMc r u C e

Wanna bet?
Give them LMG or G43 and they are more of a challenge...

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 17:07 PMc r u C e

Wanna bet?
Give them LMG or G43 and they are more of a challenge...

Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 16:54 PMNoun

Some of you may have noticed but we left some stuff out of our December 10th notes.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/67-coh-2-changelog/page2 (last post)

Apologies. We're looking at improving our internal process so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.