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I don't think shocks coming a little earlier is too bad , because they are expensive and most people called them a little later anyway. There's no huge need to call them before you have 4 cons with molotovs.
They will be nice against assault grens now though.
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I don't think shocks coming a little earlier is too bad , because they are expensive and most people called them a little later anyway. There's no huge need to call them before you have 4 cons with molotovs.
They will be nice against assault grens now though.
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Use cons to reinforce penals where you can.
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Is there a list of all the CP changes? It's not in the patch notes.
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ppsh got nerfed though
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"wooof: cons used to use the singleplayer version, now they use the multiplayer version (the one shocks have used this whole time). the old one was much stronger and way underpriced."
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Yes, well, I don't even have a clue what the sp ppsh stats were like so I've always just assumed they had the same stuff as shocks and thought the upgrade was hopelessly underpriced even with those (even if in reality it was even more powerful than that).
Whichever version of the ppsh they have, that 20 munition upgrade still makes them win against grenadiers that don't have a weapon upgrade 100% of the time.
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Yes, well, I don't even have a clue what the sp ppsh stats were like so I've always just assumed they had the same stuff as shocks and thought the upgrade was hopelessly underpriced even with those (even if in reality it was even more powerful than that).
Whichever version of the ppsh they have, that 20 munition upgrade still makes them win against grenadiers that don't have a weapon upgrade 100% of the time.
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i put the dps numbers here
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woof is it true that PGrens have no dps reduction over distance? Or is it smaller compared to other units?
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Im not Wooof, but for what its worth, heres my answer, and Im sure he will show up to correct me.
Generally units dont have reduced raw DPS over distance (except maybe MG42).
They do, however, have reduced accuracy at longer distances, which results in a lower effective DPS.
For the calculated raw DPS vs distance/accuracy stats, you can see them here for PGrens:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdEpuSHcxNko1VGVFYjczYXpFZWhqOHc#gid=0
So for PGrens, its 11.3 from right in their face, to 1.64 at their max range, per PGren.
What PGrens do have, however, is no accuracy reduction while MOVING.
So that no matter what the range, even when moving, their accuracy is the same as standing still, at those ranges, whereas most other units will suffer an additional penalty to the DPS that is listed on that spreadsheet, when moving.
Sorry for interjecting, I dont mean to replace Wooofs answer, just trying to help till he shows up. Hopefully I wasnt assbackwards wrong.
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So I guess the spread sheet is per model?
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Im not Wooof, but for what its worth, heres my answer, and Im sure he will show up to correct me.
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