MG 42 The Most Useless Unit In The Game

Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2013, 14:42 PMNullist

MG42 is the top non-Commander balance issue at this moment.

Nobody has said its "completely broken", as you are imaginarily reading and falsely implying that anyone has.

Suppression increase is only one of many possible options, and until the very second a change goes live, there is every reason to continue discussing it, both here and on the beta.

Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2013, 11:21 AMNullist

This is the most outstanding balance issue currently, barring DLC Commanders.

The MG42 is not doing its job adequately, especially considering the signficicant detractants it has as longer setup time, slower suppression and being only 4man.

The wider arc, better DPS and faster Pin, which are supposed to be its advantages, matter very little in actual ingame effect.

The Dusche is a separate DLC specific issue which also needs addressing, but it has certainly even more starkly highlighted how shitty the MG42 is.

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 02:26 AMAppleseed

at current state i only find HMG42 useful is when i leave a gren with LMG42 at front of HMG42 serve to as a spotter, meat shield, support, with the extra sight provide by the gren, HMG42 can serve its role to lock down the area for a quite long period of time. if HMG42 is try to lockdown a area by itself... it is laughable because a single con can force it on retreat or wipe them

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 11:25 AMSgtBulldog

You got it spot on: the MG42 is not supposed to lock down an area by itself.

So everything is working as it should.

Keep calm and carry on!

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 11:25 AMSgtBulldog

You got it spot on: the MG42 is not supposed to lock down an area by itself.

So everything is working as it should.

Keep calm and carry on!

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 18:50 PMtheking10

I dont get it, so a maxim can lock an entire area off by itself stopping multiple squads at once yet, yet an MG 42 which was superior in all aspects cant lock down an area and cant even reliably suppress 1 squad. You find this balanced?

Relic wanted to nerf machine guns so they became support weapons and not front line units , the maxim and dushka are exactly that ,front line units that need virtually no support.

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 20:26 PMThe_Courier

That's just false. A Maxim can lock down one gren squad but falls easily to 2, and that's before you factor in LMGs and riflenades. Not to mention PGrens can almost ignore them. If Maxims were that powerful they would be spammed, and they aren't because they're very much counterable. Maxims with Conscript support are powerful, but that's normal, and so is the MG42 if properly supported.

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2013, 22:02 PMPaRaNo1a

If you suck at Micro maybe you need a conscript support for the maxim.
Playing soviets I can lock down an area without support just suppress move suppress another squad, its not easy but its defenetly a lot easier than trying to achieve so with 1 MG42

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2013, 00:56 AMThe_Courier

Then you don't play against good players. Against anyone decent a lone Maxim is a delaying action at best until two grens/a 221/PGrens chase it off the field. Hell, a gren squad in reliable heavy cover/a building can almost slug it out against it, and definitely wins if a riflenade is involved. And of course the rapid-fire mortar is very effective against a Maxim, and a sniper is useful too. There are many tools that can take out a Maxim as soon as it comes out (provided it comes after a few conscripts). If your opponent rushes them, laugh, cap around him and gives him a taste of FHT.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2013, 12:47 PMraw

MG42 is one of the strongest units in the game