Further Evidence that COH3 is Trash

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:13 PMCrecer13

All I see is no point in talking with you further when you learn not to compare authenticity - IL-2, P-47 and A-10 with SU-25 and mechanics / balance how exactly they behave in the game.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 16:52 PMRosbone

I often hear people talk about vCoh because it had more light vehicle play. Should Coh3 really stretch out the early-middle game rather than rush out some I-win tanks?

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:18 PMSkysTheLimit

You mean you can't answer my question. Why aren't they related? Go ahead, try to explain

You're just arbitrarily picking and choosing what matters to authenticity and what doesn't. You don't care about the actual performance of the units as long as they are named correctly. That's an extremely bizarre choice, but you do you

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:24 PMCrecer13

No, I explained this to you a long time ago. Authenticity is not equal to game mechanics, authenticity is not equal to hardcore or 100% reality.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:19 PMKurobane

Well the reason that Company of Heroes 1 had more light vehicle play is because the resource generation was different, manpower points were actually important and the focus was on overall map control vs just holding a single fuel point AFK turtling in the corner then shitting out 10 panthers for the win.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:27 PMSkysTheLimit

I understand that's your opinion. But you still haven't given a reason for it

Once again, if the units don't behave at all like they did in real life, that matters to authenticity. Airplanes almost never recorded tank kills in ww2, yet it happens all the time in coh2

That's not authentic. Plain and simple. Just because the planes are named correctly doesn't make it authentic

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:32 PMCrecer13

This is a simplified mechanic plus game balance, but it was authentic until the third part, it did not have fictional weapons / prototypes or weapons from the future.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:35 PMSkysTheLimit

But the planes behave like they are from the future. I'm just not sure why the existence of the BP bothers you so much more than planes being able to win games by killing tanks

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:38 PMCrecer13

And....you're again comparing square and soft. You have an answer why authenticity and mechanics are not equal and you continue nonsense, I see no point in talking.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 20:20 PMRosbone

What the hell is square vs soft? Is this like a Final Fantasy reference?

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 20:20 PMRosbone

What the hell is square vs soft? Is this like a Final Fantasy reference?

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2022, 04:55 AMCrecer13

this is a variant of the phrase "compare warm and soft" which is the English equivalent of "compare apples and oranges".

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 16:52 PMRosbone

Black Prince is probably so normies can have some cool big tank to make. And the brit faction in general is made for people new to the game that do not have micro yet. Their stuff is always OP and requires no management.

Question for me is should Coh3 have MORE giant tanks or less. I often hear people talk about vCoh because it had more light vehicle play. Should Coh3 really stretch out the early-middle game rather than rush out some I-win tanks?

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 17:12 PMSkysTheLimit

Why is your only threshold for realism whether or not the unit existed? That's such an dumb cutoff for deciding what's accurate or not

Did stukas and hawkers exist? Sure. How often did they kill or even damage tanks? Almost never. It was so rare that it's not even worth mentioning as a reliable option. And yet they do so reliably in coh2

How about soviet AT overwatch? Are you going to tell me that because it's possible for artillery to kill tanks that means that an ability which rains down shells on tanks with perfect accuracy is realistic?

You not given a single reason why these things aren't related. You just say they aren't and expect people to agree

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:09 PMSkysTheLimit

You still haven't given a good reason why those things aren't related. Like I said the planes in ww2 behave way ahead of their time

Your mention of future planes is perfect, the accuracy of stuka/hawker/p47 AT ability is extremely exaggerated in this game. But you have no problem with it simply because the planes are named correctly? That makes no fucking sense at all

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 18:19 PMKurobane

Well the reason that Company of Heroes 1 had more light vehicle play is because the resource generation was different, manpower points were actually important and the focus was on overall map control vs just holding a single fuel point AFK turtling in the corner then shitting out 10 panthers for the win.

Jump back to quoted post30 Aug 2022, 20:36 PMOziligath

Again, why draw the line at BP and not at other stuff ?