Stuart is the worst armored unit in the game, by far.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2022, 06:48 AMy3ivan

keep stuart as it is.

just make it cheaper like 50 or 60 FU, and buff the main gun AT damage and range and make it a makeshift anti armor.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2022, 06:48 AMy3ivan

keep stuart as it is.

just make it cheaper like 50 or 60 FU, and buff the main gun AT damage and range and make it a makeshift anti armor.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2022, 11:08 AMKurobane

Making it cheaper, increasing the AT damage and increasing the range are three buffs. While I agree that the Stuart is flaming hot garbage and would be better off deleted from USF roster what it needs a clear defined role. Making it have more AT damage and range while being cheaper would basically make it a Puma on steroids.

Swapping Stuart with M8 Greyhound (give the Greyhound a minor AT buff) and making the Stuart doctrinal would allow it to be more specialized in a particular role while being able to better balance it on timing.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2022, 11:45 AMBasedSecretary

usf and ukf are 2 big jokes!!!
why?

USF, UKF have no clear gameplay purpose. Infantry need 500mp and 120fuel to be competent. You need muni to buy guns!!! and you pay fore each one separately!!!
no gameplay purpose? what do you mean?
500mp and 120 fuel to be competent? what do you mean?
axis aldo need munis to buy guns

you cannot have mg and at without backtech!!!
only usf doesn't allow mg and at in the same "tech". I guess it's just a faction design, call relic if you don't like it.

why!!!???

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2022, 06:48 AMy3ivan

keep stuart as it is.

just make it cheaper like 50 or 60 FU, and buff the main gun AT damage and range and make it a makeshift anti armor.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2022, 20:33 PMLady Xenarra

Stuart is best used as a LV counter...but you are usually in dire straits if you need to rely on that to deal with the Axis LV phase.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2022, 18:23 PMEtherealDragon

+1 To me Stuart is just the "I don't want to deal with LVs so I'm going to overkill them with light tank" unit. The fuel premium you spend on it is just a risk/reward on how much map control you wrestle back as a result of forcing your opponent(s) to be more conservative with their LVs. If you don't get more control than you otherwise would w/o Stuart then it's not worth it.

Don't know stats offhand but I think Stuart and Greyhound main gun are roughly the same AI potential wise. Greyhound's DPS superiority is all pintle and cheeky canister rounds. So in that way Stuart isn't terrible but certainly not worth it if it isn't primarily being used to reign in LVs. IMO

Jump back to quoted post10 Jun 2022, 05:39 AMEsxile

But USF isn't supposed to be the lv faction? To me the premium lv in this game is the puma, not the stuart.

Jump back to quoted post10 Jun 2022, 18:04 PMBasedSecretary

absolutely not. zero to none ai and you sacrifice heal truck plus mg plus mortar for this pile of shitcan.

unless you are getting pummeled by a t70 (which you should not, given that you have t0 rak) or a AAHT there is 0 sense in getting it.

if you want a decent lv, yu can try 251 from hp truck

Jump back to quoted post10 Jun 2022, 05:39 AMEsxile

But USF isn't supposed to be the lv faction? To me the premium lv in this game is the puma, not the stuart.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2022, 08:47 AMEsxile

What does it have to do with the Puma being the premium LV in the game? In term of stat, its superior to any other. The M8 has been nerfed to what it is today because it was superior to it.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2022, 09:02 AMEtherealDragon

I would say Puma would be the axis Stuart. It's a little different - less AI, better at long range exchanges and I would say scales better against mediums but it's the same thing where it stomps LVs but it's not a no-brainer buy because of the fuel investment and it might not equate to map control unless you are losing map control due to LVs. I would say most people would say Puma isn't bad but you don't see a ton of them.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jun 2022, 11:25 AMEsxile

You just describe what a premium is. USF has no premium LVs because you're supposed to use them as part of your regular build, they are not premium, they are... regular.