For all the Wehraboos out there

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 11:09 AMLady Xenarra

we dive into a deep discussion about Cold War propaganda of the COH2 Soviet campaign?

Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2021, 15:19 PMProtos Angelus

No offense, but don't you have better things to do than make such pointless threads?
Again, no offense.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 12:26 PMullumulu

In fairness: Apparently the actual man hours and material cost in RM was identical between a Panzer IV and Panther. Furthermore, sure, Germany could build four StuGs to a Tiger, but could they man them? Could they fuel and oil them? Though I suppose there's an argument to be made given parts shortages (to the point of units literally fighting each other to get parts for their vehicles) that it'd be better to have four StuGs worth of spare parts.

And more:

imagine a country which is bombard everyday and night and sourrounded by the half world and has low ressources at all and is in fight over whole eruope, north africa, pacific, atlantic and asia...

and is able to produce in every department of weapon class mostly the best of the best product.

which was able to beat in most cases the allies counterpart product in most fight consterlation easily.

remind you that germany fight with something like 50k tanks overall vs around 300k tanks.

yes a panther had its weakpoints...but it was able to fight whole tank companies by itsself often with much less losses.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 11:59 AMKatukov

the coh2 soviet campaign is closer to something that nazi germany's Goebbels would create, which to be fair is the entire basis of cold war (and modern) propaganda

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 14:48 PMPip

Spoiler: Stalin and the Soviets were, in fact, evil.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 14:48 PMPip

Spoiler: Stalin and the Soviets were, in fact, evil.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 18:52 PMKatukov

the campaign does not have stalin as any sort of relevant figure within the game


the campaign features a story plot that is completely made up to portray the soviets as an Asiatic horde of uncivilized savages, who only won the war because of their endless numbers and their complete lack of regard for human life. this IS NOT "oh the commies were akhully evil thus campaign is woke", this is spitting in the face of those who gave their lives away in order to defeat the most evil regime in Europe


Not only is a lot of the game fictionalized propaganda, but Isakovich is a pussy and should've shot himself

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 19:48 PMKlement Pikhtura

USSR gave little to no crap for live of their soldiers and citizens, especially during early stages of the war. Actually in campaign the whole SOV power structure was portraited as evil, not the soldiers. But Relic, instead of investing time learning history and facts, they invested time in watching "Enemy at the Gates"... So they pretty much did a disservice to how actually violent USSR was by painting it as simple dumb evil.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 11:09 AMLady Xenarra

This thread is surely classified as spam?

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 20:31 PMKatukov

they obviously gave a shit their own people, asides from the virtue of fighting a war for their entire existence, examples like the siege of leningrad and many other evacuation attempts show that they did care. their military actions in the early war were acts of desperation to stop an enemy who exploited the incredible blunders of the early red army.

Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2021, 13:54 PMKatukov

this was written by adolf hitler's ghost defending himself 80 years later