Why Brits Armor
10 Oct 2021, 12:40 PM
#1
Posts: 80
Are so cheap yet so accurate, fast, and too much bounce from AT? not to mention its timing way too early.
10 Oct 2021, 13:06 PM
#2
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It's definitely not cheap and it definitely doesn't come early. Unless you're talking about the AEC. If you're talking about 4v4 then you have to consider fuel caches because that can cause them to come out much faster than normal.
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10 Oct 2021, 13:06 PM
#3
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to answer this question, first, i need to investigate your playercard
10 Oct 2021, 13:08 PM
#4
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I'm talking about 1v1. the AEC isn't a Kubel it can pin down units it definitely starve man power in someone's hand.
Their tanks are too effiecient for their worth if its not cheap and tanky.
Their tanks are too effiecient for their worth if its not cheap and tanky.
10 Oct 2021, 13:37 PM
#5
Posts: 177
I'm talking about 1v1. the AEC isn't a Kubel it can pin down units it definitely starve man power in someone's hand.
Their tanks are too effiecient for their worth if its not cheap and tanky.
they have a lot of limit, lack of many things like mobility mortar/rocket truck. their tank are very late if you mean comet and churchill.
comet vs panther = panther win
churchill vs panther = panther win
AEC are very high investment and that will slowdown your tank.
and if you going to said comet can use for anti infantry I will said panzer iv are better in this role by its timing and cost.
10 Oct 2021, 14:51 PM
#6
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they have a lot of limit, lack of many things like mobility mortar/rocket truck. their tank are very late if you mean comet and churchill.
comet vs panther = panther win
churchill vs panther = panther win
AEC are very high investment and that will slowdown your tank.
and if you going to said comet can use for anti infantry I will said panzer iv are better in this role by its timing and cost.
crom vs infantry: run over and shoot -->crom win
crom vs at gun: smoke, run in and shoot -->crom win
crom vs panther: smoke, run out -->crom win
same with comet
10 Oct 2021, 15:24 PM
#7
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crom vs infantry: run over and shoot -->crom win
crom vs at gun: smoke, run in and shoot -->crom win
crom vs panther: smoke, run out -->crom win
same with comet
Lol the panther can run over inf just fine and mow survivors down with 3 mg's.
Instead of smoking the at gun the panther just parks point blank and mg's the models down.
The cromwell cant even reliably pen the panther. And if you force the crom or comet to smoke the panther and have them retreat its a win gor the panther and not the other way around.
10 Oct 2021, 15:45 PM
#8
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I'm having this sense of déjà vu, again.
https://www.coh2.org/topic/109216/brit-s-comet/page/1#post_id875231
https://www.coh2.org/topic/109397/why-british-armor-tank/page/1#post_id877225
https://www.coh2.org/topic/109216/brit-s-comet/page/1#post_id875231
https://www.coh2.org/topic/109397/why-british-armor-tank/page/1#post_id877225
10 Oct 2021, 17:39 PM
#9
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Lol the panther can run over inf just fine and mow survivors down with 3 mg's.
Instead of smoking the at gun the panther just parks point blank and mg's the models down.
The cromwell cant even reliably pen the panther. And if you force the crom or comet to smoke the panther and have them retreat its a win gor the panther and not the other way around.
k now compare the time crom hits the field vs when panther hits the field
10 Oct 2021, 17:46 PM
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to op: Any stat to back up the point ?
10 Oct 2021, 18:55 PM
#11
Posts: 472
to answer this question, first, i need to investigate your playercard
+1 for this.
It is well known fact that you almost certainly gets victory over UKF if you delay the game to the 30+ min. without losing too much inf. squad.
And you better be very precise about what tank you are talking about.
Because some(Churchil & Firefly) are definitely not fast,
Nor some(Cromwell & Comet) are accurate - 6.4 scatter(P4J has 5.54 / Same with P4 but P4 has much better AoE) -
And almost all are not tanky at all (except for the comet with 290 armor or Churchill with just high hp)
IMHO UKF has worst tank lineup compare to any faction.
10 Oct 2021, 21:51 PM
#12
Posts: 157
from my experience,
UKF is a carbon copy of Ostheer (at least the players). UKF gets stronger longer the game goes. Plus UKF meta is very similar to Ostheer meta especially in 4v4
1. bren tommy blobs = lmg gren blobs
2. centaur = better version of ostwind
3. QF6 walls = pak walls
4. piat sapper blob = cheaper version of PG shrek blob
5. rush for comet because its a mini tiger and i can spam 4 of them
UKF is a carbon copy of Ostheer (at least the players). UKF gets stronger longer the game goes. Plus UKF meta is very similar to Ostheer meta especially in 4v4
1. bren tommy blobs = lmg gren blobs
2. centaur = better version of ostwind
3. QF6 walls = pak walls
4. piat sapper blob = cheaper version of PG shrek blob
5. rush for comet because its a mini tiger and i can spam 4 of them
10 Oct 2021, 22:05 PM
#13
Posts: 1289
k now compare the time crom hits the field vs when panther hits the field
What would that do? It wont change any of the previous points.
10 Oct 2021, 22:54 PM
#14
Posts: 100
You didn't really mention which tank is problematic for you (unless you mean all of them). Only the comet is really good - I'd rather have that then a panther. That said, all their other tanks are crap.
10 Oct 2021, 23:36 PM
#15
Posts: 1158
The panther is the best tank in the game and both axis factions can access it.
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
11 Oct 2021, 02:46 AM
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Why thread exist
11 Oct 2021, 04:45 AM
#17
Posts: 80
I'm having this sense of déjà vu, again.
https://www.coh2.org/topic/109216/brit-s-comet/page/1#post_id875231
https://www.coh2.org/topic/109397/why-british-armor-tank/page/1#post_id877225
I'm just ranting, I love you all guys. hahaha! The shoutbox is too small for my rants.
But yeah Comet is fucking ridiculously good.
But I'll stand on my rants that Brits armor bounces ATs and other tanks shot like no other.
Just keeping the forum lively.
11 Oct 2021, 08:44 AM
#18
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I'm just ranting, I love you all guys. hahaha! The shoutbox is too small for my rants.
But yeah Comet is fucking ridiculously good.
But I'll stand on my rants that Brits armor bounces ATs and other tanks shot like no other.
Just keeping the forum lively.
it costs 175 fuel of course it should be good
even the best at guns in the game are going to bounce eventually
the coh2.org forum experience:
11 Oct 2021, 10:42 AM
#19
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I'm just ranting, I love you all guys. hahaha! The shoutbox is too small for my rants.
But yeah Comet is fucking ridiculously good.
But I'll stand on my rants that Brits armor bounces ATs and other tanks shot like no other.
Just keeping the forum lively.
this. The forum is filled with rant threat but very few guy can just admit they're ranting. You have my respect.
11 Oct 2021, 14:40 PM
#20
Posts: 177
crom vs infantry: run over and shoot -->crom win
crom vs at gun: smoke, run in and shoot -->crom win
crom vs panther: smoke, run out -->crom win
same with comet
same with panzer iv.
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