A change for the ZiS 3

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ok, here is my idea why don't make the ZiS 3's barrage into a toggle mode like how AP and HE rounds are in ISU-152 instead of an ability. The zis can toggle between brumbar like arty and at gun with a decent cooldown in the middle. It kinda ridiculous how it can instantly go from being an at gun to arty piece and back so quickly.

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I assume the barrage would still cost munitions in your proposal? If yes, a shell switch inducing a slight delay might not be a bad idea. At least it would require a bit more foresight to use the barrage that way.

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1 Oct 2021, 04:55 AMMMX

I assume the barrage would still cost munitions in your proposal? If yes, a shell switch inducing a slight delay might not be a bad idea. At least it would require a bit more foresight to use the barrage that way.

Well, i was thinking not a barrage but it switches to an arty mode with reasonable cool-down between each shell no munitions cost. But what you thought could actually be better, since the point is to add risk to use the ability as you won't be able to quickly switch and go after the MG's that punishing you for being sloppy with you movement or not have to deal with charging vehicles.

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yeah i don't think a simple shell-switch alone would be good idea. you'd basically have to neuter the AI mode into uselessness, otherwise you'd end up with another massively OP unit even outshining the baby-AT gun prior to the canister shot nerf.

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1 Oct 2021, 06:42 AMMMX

yeah i don't think a simple shell-switch alone would be good idea. you'd basically have to neuter the AI mode into uselessness, otherwise you'd end up with another massively OP unit even outshining the baby-AT gun prior to the canister shot nerf.

That why I said your idea of having to switch in order use a barrage might be a better idea.

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not needed for the zis-3 but could be amazing if the su-76 got a kv-2 lite siege mode, since the su-76 is kinda trash rn

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I don't think it's necessary, but if it was done, the toggle could apply the muni drain that old T70 auto repair used to to keep it balanced. It's an AT gun that can be a field gun, I wouldn't want to see cheesy shenanigans of mass infinite arty barrage that can then fight off any tanks.

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Maybe for SU76 and replace T34/85 RAM ability？

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That's more of an idea for CoH3, such change is too major for CoH2.

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

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3 Oct 2021, 21:57 PMWAAAGH2000

Maybe for SU76 and replace T34/85 RAM ability？

T70 ram :flushed:

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