Artillery observation Panzer for Joint operations

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 22:33 PMGachiGasm

I would also agree, that Joint Operations need to be remade, maybe even combining pak43 and LeFH into one ability, considering they both are 8 CP.

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 22:46 PMAngrade (Ægion)

Honestly, combining the two with their current power would be too powerful for a doctrinal ability. If they were be combined they would be needing to be adjusted.

The Pak 43 damage could be reduced to 240 from 320 and no longer able to shoot through buildings and object, but be cheaper at 300 manpower + fuel and arrives at 6 cp.
The Lefh 18 could simply have its range reduced to 180 - 200 and counter barrage removed, but in return could have it's cost reduced to 320-360 manpower + fuel, arrive at 6 cp, and gain a smoke barrage.

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 23:00 PMGachiGasm

Well with this aproach I would rather remove PaK43 alltogeather fron Joint Operation if favor of having just LeFH in it.

At the end of the day, if one really want to play defensively around PaK43 you better off having Defensive commander or if you just want to have an option to have it, then Festung Armor is really sweet with new P4J.

Both of the commanders are x100 times better then Joint operation for Pak43. And SturmDoc is like ultimate arty doc, with strong ability for inf (camo), howi and self-spotting hardcounter for enemy howis.

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 23:06 PMMr. Someguy

Then you'd have no Commander with the combination of Pak 43 and LeFH.

Edit:

In Ostheer anyway. OKW has their Fortifications Doctrine.

Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2021, 22:46 PMAngrade (Ægion)

The Pak 43 damage could be reduced to 240 from 320 and no longer able to shoot through buildings and object, but be cheaper at 300 manpower + fuel and arrives at 6 cp.