USF Airborne Commander Revamp

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 12:08 PMZeroZeroNi

No. Allies have superior anti air. Neither the Flak HT/base, 222, Ostwind or the myriad of pintles mgs can not stop the p47's from doing their first pass. While ju87's will get shot down before they even have the chance to do so.

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 18:50 PMgeneral_gawain

So if you chain the cost to the capability of the opponent to counter what should we do after...

- Soviet M5 Quad AA kill chance went from 10% to 5%
- M15 AA HT kill chance went from 15% to 8%

Beeing cheap and affordable (cost+population) this two vehicles were always the main source of allied AA. So shouldn't the MU cost go up now by your logic?

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 19:25 PMZeroZeroNi

They will still kill JU87's before they can do a single pass. No axis AA can stop P47's from doing their first pass because the JU87's need to get close enough to their target to actually fire and is not a projectile, p47's are projectiles and is fired from a longer range and can hit even if the plane is taken out.

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 20:09 PMgeneral_gawain

Seems you think balance patch was worthless in that compartement. Allied AA was way op before and is op now? I personally think they did a good job. They carefully used different AA values to find the right one as you might have seen at the balance updates.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2021, 20:28 PMSander93

You still save 35 fuel while getting to use both team weapons, and save population to use on elite infantry. That's still a very big advantage.

Jump back to quoted post28 Mar 2021, 14:58 PMT.R. Stormjäger

I’ve tested them vs moving targets numerous times. No difference whatsoever.

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 22:34 PMSkysTheLimit

Then I assume you believe SCAS should cost 240 munitions? OR p47s should cost 200? Since they're exactly the same...

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 22:56 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Sure? I don't really care.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2021, 00:50 AMSkysTheLimit

My point was that your wrong about them being the same. They aren't

SCAS is more reliable, more common and it's on better commanders. Lighting war gives you g43s, a tiger, and scas which is hilarious

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2021, 22:34 PMSkysTheLimit

Very big? It's alright, but nobody else has to choose between MGs and AT guns in the first place, so it's really not that special

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2021, 06:22 AMSander93

What does anybody else have to do with it? It's the core USF design, they have to deal with it every single match, and that's not going to change anymore. So yes, for USF it's a big advantage to have a commander option to skip one of the techs with a call-in.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2021, 01:06 AMT.R. Stormjäger

Airbourne is meta in all game modes. Ju87 are meta in all game modes with jager infantry and jager armour.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2021, 01:06 AMT.R. Stormjäger

They are pretty much the same ability with some differences. It doesn’t really matter, aside from Ju87s being better vs armour in confined spaces, as Shadowlink demonstrated.