Top level player allegedly maphacking in CoH2

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:00 PMReverb

He takes an initial lucky shot through the FOW (nothing abnormal here, you can hear the T70 through FOW and taking attack ground shots is completely normal for the 1st...you see this all day on twitch streams of players attack grounding through that hedge). The lucky shot connects, now people seem to think the 2nd shot is very suspicious but it is not, when you hit something in the FOW through lucky attack grounds, the item you hit is momentarily revealed through the FOW (you can hear the *donk* of the round hitting).

I don't know what the picture of the "curved" shot is supposed to imply...are you saying he has some sort of aim hack?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:07 PMGachiGasm

From the fact that some top players, said somewhere something. And instead of proper reasoning, we got a list of known names and a bunch of shitshow clips (not all of them, but most of them), which 90% of the ppl wont even watch. They will rather watch AE short video, in which even he made hell of a lot mistakes himself, and maybe some % of them will watch the clips from a perspective "Oh well this guy is indeed a cheater".

For me personally, if Seeking cant prove that his "replay vision bug" exists, then he is a cheater. Other then that, all of this is un-professional and unprepared BS drama.

Hell, this thread is appered even before Seeking made an explanation video. Prove that he is lieing about vision bug, and boom, this is enouth to officially call him cheater. Because is he is not, he wouldnt have lied.

Point is, maybe behind scene in private talks there was a proper reasoning behind all of this. Sad part is public is only looking at pile of shit now. This is why its unprofessional.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:09 PMNorthWeapon

Literally 44 people viewing this thread. Do people love drama this much?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:12 PMpvtgooner

furthermore, i think the way this was put out was far far far more professional than what I expected. hearing some people tell you, you'd think AE fired off a 2 minute video with no clips, no discussion from top players and at the behest of a late night text from ashablois.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:09 PMNorthWeapon

Literally 44 people viewing this thread. Do people love drama this much?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:00 PMReverb

I don't know what the picture of the "curved" shot is supposed to imply...are you saying he has some sort of aim hack?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:00 PMReverb

I don't know what the picture of the "curved" shot is supposed to imply...are you saying he has some sort of aim hack?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:34 PMSander93

Curved shots can only occur when a gun rolls a hit, and then the shell will follow the enemy vehicle regardless of its movement, causing curved projectiles. It can obviously only do that when it can directly target the enemy vehicle. So with direct line of sight.

The question however is whether the curve is a camera angle or replay illusion or real. I suspect it's the former because I highly doubt the maphack (I have no idea how it works) allows to directly target vehicles in the FOW.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 20:25 PMvgfgff

can you explain this shot?
T70 is in FOW but his AT shoot to T70 with curved projectiles that cause by normal attack not ground attack .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCfe8aslYDw

https://imgur.com/cD4oS2w

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:34 PMSander93

Curved shots can only occur when a gun rolls a hit, and then the shell will follow the enemy vehicle regardless of its movement, causing curved projectiles. It can obviously only do that when it can directly target the enemy vehicle. So with direct line of sight. A curved shot with attack ground is impossible.

The question however is whether the curve is a camera angle or replay illusion or real. I suspect it's the former because I highly doubt the maphack (I have no idea how it works) allows to directly target vehicles in the FOW.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:38 PMPip

"Curved Shots" are caused by the accuracy check succeeding, and forcing the shell to home in on the target. They only occur on actual attacks, not attack grounds, and only when the shot succeeds an accuracy check, as previously mentioned.

The fact that the shot didn't actually hit the t-70 on the third attack indicates this didn't happen, I don't think there's anything to see with regards to a "Curved shot".

It's odd that he "knew" where the T-70 was after it trundled back into the fog, especially as it changed direction after it stopped being visible, but vehicle sounds in the fog can be used fairly well to locate an unit. I'm not sure I'd call this /all/ that suspicious.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:38 PMReverb

So this implies the map hack interacts with the game play (basing rolls off vision provided by the map hack)?

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:40 PMReverb

When you hit something the FOW it is momentarily revealed. Note that the "FOW" box is clicked on but the T70 is visible.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:40 PMReverb

When you hit something the FOW it is momentarily revealed. Note that the "FOW" box is clicked on but the T70 is visible.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:36 PMpvtgooner

More curious about the brum shot where he gave an attack ground order through shotblockers, never seeing the ATG, but reversing when he realized he was about to give up the ghost.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:43 PMvgfgff

In second shot It was not revealed. and It was curved. that what I suspect.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:40 PMReverb

When you hit something the FOW it is momentarily revealed. Note that the "FOW" box is clicked on but the T70 is visible.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:46 PMPip

The shot appears straight to me, the "curve" you're seeing is an artefact of the camera angle, I think.

Jump back to quoted post11 Mar 2021, 21:38 PMPip

The fact that the shot didn't actually hit the t-70 on the third attack indicates this didn't happen, I don't think there's anything to see with regards to a "Curved shot".