Why Soviets are OP

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:03 AMWiderstreit

I am not sure how a Maxim buff could go well... so you need to buff OKW, or give them a real tool force maxims like Snipers or something like Sdkfz 251-Flamme. And OKW has problems versus MG even now...

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:12 AMgbem

snipers no... id prefer less snipers to more snipers thank you... but OKW could get a mortar unlocked by the first undeployed truck... it would be a decent anti MG tool... should also make it easier to deal with the vickers as OKW... granted you would still be melted by USF alive... single most lopsided matchup if ive ever seen one....

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:16 AMWiderstreit

move leIG18 to Ostheer, while have access to mortars with Sdkfz251.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 10:22 AMT.R. Stormjäger

(to remove 6men crews on loot weapons) Fully agree. Also remove bundle nades, mg42, rifle nades, put sniper behind a special side tier that offers absolutely nothing else, delay the first LV to the 9min mark, remove tellers, remove tier 4 and make its units doctrinal.

Mg42 bundle nades rifle nades sniper panther brummbar panzerwerfer are all simply too much.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:19 AMVipper

Nothing of this related to captured weapons.

When other faction capture soviet weapons they have 4 men crew and there is little to no reason for when soviet capture other's faction weapons to have 6 men crews.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:23 AMKatitof

When USF captures vehicle, they still can use vehicle crews for it.
When someone captures USF vehicle, they don't have vehicle crew.

Damn, its almost as if faction trait doesn't magically go away from the faction, just because they picked a toy that isn't originally theirs, nor other factions can inherit magically faction traits that aren't theirs to begin with.

There is nothing wrong with that.
You are free to have whatever opinion on the subject, but it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the mechanic.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:27 AMVipper

And when OKW capture vehicles they have 3 vet while when other faction capture okw vehicles they have 3.

Now if you believe that soviet captured weapon should have 4 men crew while other faction crew should be 6 men try to come up with an actual argument explaining why soviet need this advantage.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:27 AMVipper

Now if you believe that soviet captured weapon should have 4 men crew while other faction crew should be 6 men try to come up with an actual argument explaining why soviet need this advantage.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:51 AMgbem

cuz soviet weapon teams suck outside of the zis... if the maxim and (arguably) the soviet mortar get buffed then we can do away with the 6 man capture meme...

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:56 AMVipper

That explain why maxim in soviet hands has 6 men crews, it does not hover explain why maxim in in other factions has a crew of 4 or why a 0.5 (which is even drop-able) in soviet hand has a 6 men crew.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 12:00 PMgbem

the maxim is still trash despite having a 6 man crew... make soviet weapon teams (aside from the zis) not trash then we can do away with 6 man captures...

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 12:01 PMVipper

There is simply no relevance between the two.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 11:18 AMgbem

what? no... ostheer doesnt need the LEIG18...

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 12:05 PMWiderstreit

It would be a changed version, not same as now, arriving later but gets more abilites. Making Ostheer more mobile while giving OKW more something fitting to them. etc. I believe there are key-units and abilities that have to be mixed between fractions. Not only the blueprint, but the logic behind them.

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 12:08 PMgbem

ostheer shouldnt be more mobile... the faction is built to be a slow defensive faction focusing on holding the ground then counterattacking with powerful T4 units... at least thats how i see it... the real mobile faction here is either USF or SOV... with USF focused more on hyperaggression earlygame while SOV focused on lategame firepower...

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 12:04 PMgbem

incorrect...

Jump back to quoted post15 Nov 2020, 12:23 PMVipper

You are "incorrect" performance of soviet support weapons and the performance of captured weapon are irrelevant issues.