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yes, they should.
UKF at guns shouldnt have sprint which cost nothing
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I know how to solve this issue and make everyone happy.
Go to my thread and vote yes to make ATGs have independent crews.
Raketen loses retreat, gains crew. The weapon is abandoned, the crew and its veterancy saved.
Win-win situation.
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"No gunshield and 55 range.
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Why are you acting like anyone would have a problem with giving it a gunshield if were possible?
I already said test it out at 6 men with no retreat, so no it's not the same arguments. You're just reading a title and skipping over everything else
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Seems like it would just make it a really bad zis with less range that shoots the ground occasionally, and no muni barrage
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it's literally the same stuff as ur old thread
https://www.coh2.org/topic/103793/why-does-rak-need-retreat
"I see no reason for it to have it anymore. It's got almost the same range as all the other AT guns, camo at vet1, and a 5-man crew to prevent it from getting instakilled by explosives (which now makes it almost impossible to grenade to death even retreat notwithstanding). Removing retreat would make people actually use it like an AT gun instead of just blobbing them up in groups of two or using it like an infantry squad with a giant AT rocket."
"No gunshield and 55 range.
/thread"
always same arguments
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dude i just copy pasted replies, not even mime, from the same thread he posted a few month ago, my point being he is just trying to push it, if people could we all would like a normal at gun not this cancer, remaking the thread changes nothing mod team already responded in that
Why are you acting like anyone would have a problem with giving it a gunshield if were possible?
I already said test it out at 6 men with no retreat, so no it's not the same arguments. You're just reading a title and skipping over everything else
Katitof-2018
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dude i just copy pasted replies, not even mime, from the same thread he posted a few month ago, my point being he is just trying to push it, if people could we all would like a normal at gun not this cancer, remaking the thread changes nothing mod team already responded in that
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Katitof-2018
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i think it would be even more cancer for some people
i would be fine to test
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cause ""people ""(and u know who i mean) will say " 1 more man will give it even more survivability vs inf"
How so? If you can't retreat anymore you have to way more cautious, even with an extra man
Katitof-2018
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cause ""people ""(and u know who i mean) will say " 1 more man will give it even more survivability vs inf"
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They might but I think they'd be wrong. Being able to retreat away from infantry is pretty strong for survivability
Even if they were right about inf, it definitely makes them more vulnerable to tanks. 1 more man on a the crew is less valuable against tanks than retreat is imo
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1) remove raketenwerfer.
2) Re-Add volksgrenadier pshrek upgrade
3) See the forums burn (even more) in rants and PTSD
4) ???
5) Profit
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with the current meta and new mechanics I think shrek volks would be considerably worse then they used to be, they would 100% get rolled over by cons/rifles/tommy IMO especially if they lose faust with shrek upgrade
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Not if you spamm them like hell.
10 volksshreks blob o'doom
*wild katyusha appears*
-Le stalin organ starts to spread its love among the blob
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