When using this ability I was (only me, not team) able to see all the ennemy units on the mini-map, wherever they were on general mud).
Can't identify why it happened.
[Tracking] on Zis gun
7 May 2020, 07:07 AM
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7 May 2020, 07:09 AM
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All as in on the whole map?
Because... it DOES allow you to see some units on minimap up to certain range.
Because... it DOES allow you to see some units on minimap up to certain range.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
7 May 2020, 07:11 AM
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All as in on the whole map?
Because... it DOES allow you to see some units on minimap up to certain range.
Yep all units in 4vs4 on the minimap, wherever they were (at base, at the opposite side of the map ect...), I'll try to take a screen next time.
It was exactly like the IR HT bug, but only during the time of the ability.
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7 May 2020, 07:17 AM
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Just to make sure, you weren't drunk and using partisan map hack ability?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
7 May 2020, 07:18 AM
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Just to make sure, you weren't drunk and using partisan map hack ability?
Yep
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7 May 2020, 08:53 AM
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had you used merged on that zis?
7 May 2020, 10:46 AM
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I stole this Zis with Agren
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7 May 2020, 10:59 AM
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I stole this Zis with Agren
Then it a problem of the Agrenadier models having an passive ability that they should not have, which gets activated when "trucking" is used.
7 May 2020, 12:14 PM
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Cheat mod confirms, the assgren ZIS has some 5-6 times longer infantry tracking range. Didn't test with any other units.
7 May 2020, 12:16 PM
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So, what's the possibility that AG crewd ZiS triggers interrogate instead of tracking?
I'd place my bet on that.
I'd place my bet on that.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
7 May 2020, 12:17 PM
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Excellent find.
7 May 2020, 12:20 PM
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Cheat mod confirms, the assgren ZIS has some 5-6 times longer infantry tracking range. Didn't test with any other units.
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In your test were all model of the new crew a.grenadier or was there also a Pg model?
7 May 2020, 12:30 PM
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In your test were all model of the new crew a.grenadier or was there also a Pg model?
In my test the gun was crewed by 3 assault gren models. Further testing seems to show that normal grenadiers and panzergrenadiers also get the same extra tracking range.
Didn't get any extra range with osttruppen, volksgrenadiers or conscripts.
7 May 2020, 12:35 PM
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In my test the gun was crewed by 3 assault gren models. Further testing seems to show that normal grenadiers and panzergrenadiers also get the same extra tracking range.
Didn't get any extra range with osttruppen, volksgrenadiers or conscripts.
From the units involved, I'm more convinced it triggers interrogation somehow.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
7 May 2020, 12:37 PM
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So, what's the possibility that AG crewd ZiS triggers interrogate instead of tracking?
I'd place my bet on that.
This is indeed the case, although it is hard to fix. Both abilities activate something called 'extended sight'. Extended sight is set per soldier entity. The extended sight of Grenadiers triggers the 'interrogate' effect, while the original AT crew triggers the 'tracking' effect.
7 May 2020, 12:46 PM
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This is indeed the case, although it is hard to fix. Both abilities activate something called 'extended sight'. Extended sight is set per soldier entity. The extended sight of Grenadiers triggers the 'interrogate' effect, while the original AT crew triggers the 'tracking' effect.
Cool, more reason to not have ZiS stolen.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
7 May 2020, 12:49 PM
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This is indeed the case, although it is hard to fix. Both abilities activate something called 'extended sight'. Extended sight is set per soldier entity. The extended sight of Grenadiers triggers the 'interrogate' effect, while the original AT crew triggers the 'tracking' effect.
If this is the case it can be fixed for assault Grenadiers since it can be removed
, they to not have access to interrogation anyway.One could also try lowering the search area of interrogation to 90 also.
As far as remember the same happen to zis guns that have been merged to with detection area increased to 90.
7 May 2020, 13:02 PM
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If this is the case it can be fixed for a Grenadiers since ti can be removed
Unless it was removed, I'm pretty sure G43 grens get interrogate. Since grens dont get any other sort of "sight extender" I'm assuming it just defaults to the interrogate.
7 May 2020, 13:03 PM
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Unless it was removed, I'm pretty sure G43 grens get interrogate. Since grens dont get any other sort of "sight extender" I'm assuming it just defaults to the interrogate.
I was unclear a grenadiers was referring to Assault grenadiers my apologies I fixed it.
7 May 2020, 18:48 PM
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The Zis refuses in getting all of it's bugs fixed 
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
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