Raketens should lose their received accuracy bonus

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 15:22 PMthedarkarmadillo

Tbh I don't think it's an issue. Rak has slightly lower range and no gun shield so the extra man and rec acc feels fine to me. With creeping death gone imo the rak is in a pretty fine place where it's still unique and a threat but counterable.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 15:26 PMAerohank

I do think they are slightly too resistant to infantry. You can push crazy agressively with them with little fear of losing them thanks to the retreat ability. Definetly the strongest AT gun against medium armor because of this. You can make a pair of them and just do crazy push after crazy push, if you make a mistake, doesn't matter, hit retreat. If the enemy makes a mistake, they lose their medium armor.

Though I am not actually sure if they need a change. I very rarely play with heavy allied armor so maybe my perception of the Raketten is biased because of it.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 15:24 PMT.R. Stormjäger

No clue how people unironically make “Raketens OP” threads.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 17:02 PMShadowLinkX37

+1 This nailed it.

Switching out the scott for the calliope would fix this issue in USFs roster and making the mattress more consistant would go a long way to stopping the insane rak dives.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 17:02 PMShadowLinkX37

Switching out the scott for the calliope.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 17:45 PMEsxile

i don't know why you want to break the balance just for that.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 18:33 PMT.R. Stormjäger

And why would USF get such a nuclear megabuff?

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 19:29 PMShadowLinkX37

I'd rather nerf the calliope to closer to pwerfer levels and then swap them then continuously bring up how the scott is too durable patch after patch and it getting ignored. That and USF and UKF can still not deal with rak blobs because of the lack of burst.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 19:31 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Huh? HE M4s mean death if the raketen wall is flanked, especially with how broken the raketen retreat is meaning a rifleman grenade can easily knock off the 2 models driving it.

I really don't see how raketens are an issue. I get that rocket artillery counters pak walls best, but USF has the best offensive infantry and best anti-infantry medium generalist in the game.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 19:33 PMShadowLinkX37

the issue is that flanking isn't always possible. You get put on lane maps like red ball and minsk pocket and poltawa and cry in a corner.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 19:37 PMT.R. Stormjäger

That's why I always play Urban Assault KEKW

CalliOP

You can also focus with LMG rifles if that's your thing, or LMG Paras, or call in a strike with camouflaged IR paths, or recon bombs, or cover to cover, or Scott smoke and rush with infantry and M4, or rush with halftrucks with cav riflemen. You have plenty of options if you can't flank, though I think it's always possible to flank at least a little bit, unless it's a narrow 4v4 map in which case it's a shitty map issue not a balance issue.

I don't wanna talk about Poltawa. Delete it.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 21:07 PMEsxile

All that stuff is doctrinal so out of topic. USF shouldn't rely on doctrine to counter a 270 manpower unit.

Jump back to quoted post2 May 2020, 15:04 PMEsxile

Raketen receiving their 5th man was a great idea so it doesn't get decrewed too often by single tank shot, now it is like for any other support weapon team. But collateral side of it is that it is impossible to decrew them with infantry.