Pack Howie
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Yes it can decrew your pakwall from 80 range, but if you ask me all support weapons should be able to clear an ATG or MG crew in one manual barrage. The most frustrating thing in the game is using a mortar or 120mm and an MG surviving an entire barrage with one or two model losses.
If someone is dumb enough to leave a support weapon under barrage it should die nine times out of ten, prefferably around the third shell. Right now mortars are pretty useless vs anything but buildings after the great indirect nerf.
Yes I'm going to say it the mortar and ISG nerfs were a mistake. Buff the AOE of all indirect barrages and make the vet increase RoF.
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Yes I'm going to say it the mortar and ISG nerfs were a mistake. Buff the AOE of all indirect barrages and make the vet increase RoF.
ISG nerfs were not a mistake, it requires 0 input to always pinpoint squad with autofire while sitting in safety of converted trucks. It shits on soviet or any other mortar while hardly any more expensive. More indirect fire weapons should be like current pak howie that is shit with autofire but actually rly good with manual barrage, this way the weapon scales with player micro.
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ISG nerfs were not a mistake, it requires 0 input to always pinpoint squad with autofire while sitting in safety of converted trucks. It shits on soviet or any other mortar while hardly any more expensive. More indirect fire weapons should be like current pak howie that is shit with autofire but actually rly good with manual barrage, this way the weapon scales with player micro.
Pak Howies weakness isn't that its weak with autofire, it's that it isn't very mobile and dies extremely quick to literally anything. decrews with 2 men and starts with 5. One well placed shell after some small arms fire wipes it.
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try move around, reposition immediately when spotted, play more mobile. dont be another lazy axis player stalling for OP heavies while bunker spamming.
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wipe potential is only high if you play gardening and stay still with your weapon teams.
try move around, reposition immediately when spotted, play more mobile. dont be another lazy axis player stalling for OP heavies while bunker spamming.
*cries as a pack howie shell scatters and hits your moving squad dead center*
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wipe potential is only high if you play gardening and stay still with your weapon teams.
try move around, reposition immediately when spotted, play more mobile. dont be another lazy axis player stalling for OP heavies while bunker spamming.
sees rilfes walk to u.... reposition MG cause of pack howie(and tactic experts in the forum say so) rifle wipes MG... aaaand steal it.
M34/42 is not a Maxim.
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sees rilfes walk to u.... reposition MG cause of pack howie(and tactic experts in the forum say so) rifle wipes MG... aaaand steal it.
M34/42 is not a Maxim.
use you pioneer to spot. anticipate which sides the rifles usually approach. cover openings with grens or pgren.
pack howie is an expensive mid term unit. usf making it will leave more holes in their infantry numbers.
shrug. its a l2p thing. l2p meaning spend more time to familiarise your maps.
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use you pioneer to spot. anticipate which sides the rifles usually approach. cover openings with grens or pgren.
pack howie is an expensive mid term unit. usf making it will leave more holes in their infantry numbers.
shrug. its a l2p thing. l2p meaning spend more time to familiarise your maps.
or just nrev that beast and bring it in line with over indy fire otpions
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or just nrev that beast and bring it in line with over indy fire otpions
The only other non early game artillery units are stuka, katy and pwerfer.
Pack howi doesn't exactly cost 240mp either.
Biggest "problem" and rather unpopular opinion is - it is in line with other indirect fire options for its cost and timing.
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Pak Howi is a completely broken unit. Who at Lelic designed this unit to fight OST 4men squads? send him to the gulag.
I often use it to kill stukas.
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Yes - the damage is too great. Not necessairly the AoE. Reducing the damage wouldn't be too much of a nerf
It actually would, because it does the exact same 80 damage any other small indirect unit does.
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AT vet 2 Pak howitzer does 160 damage with the barrage while having 300 penetration.
And yet, not a single complaint ever mentioned barrage, every single one is about auto attack.
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And yet, not a single complaint ever mentioned barrage, every single one is about auto attack.
How many other small indirect unit can do the exact same 160 damage/300 penetration the Pack's howitzers "heat barrage" does?
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its easy and okw to just get a stuka but as ost what do you do?
you cant stall till t4 for a shitty werfer.
try counter it with two Granatwerfers. once the pak howie is vetted just spam white phosphorus and park your ambulance there EZ.
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