Super Heavy tank requirements in Winter balance preview

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 09:04 AMEsxile

So Perhsing is potentially the most expensive tank to get while also being the weakest at of all: You have to add at last an ambulance and Rack before getting it in real games.

USF and Soviet mid game momentum are also completely dependent on their light vehicle which is not true for other factions that can go without them. that 50 fuel for USF and 70 for Soviet if they want to get the upper hand for some time before their windows close up.

No wonder you barely seen Pershing in 2vs2 while Tigers are there every single game.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 11:50 AMAlphrum

ppl wer going for tigers shows you how reliant axis are on the tiger to provide crucial AI and AT support. When playing USF, its not a important whether u get a Pershing out, since USF have strong AI in inf and strong AT in the jackson. If that wasn't the case you would be seeing more pershinsg being used. Even when the tiger was being picked almost every game, how was the axis win rates to USF/allied win rates in the tournament?, pls remind me. now imagine how bad its going to be without the tiger.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 06:37 AMVipper

Imo the requirement of having a Schewerer Panzer headquarters with Panzer Authorization on map to have access to the doctrinal units is should be fixed. This is problem especially in 3vs3 and 4vs4 where the CP gain in longer and the shire volume of artillery can delete OKW easily.

If one is not willing to remove the restriction at least make the requirement of Panzer Authorization a one time requirement so that if one loses the Schewerer Panzer can replace it without having to unlock the Panzer Authorization again.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 14:08 PMEtherealDragon

If only you were allowed to to place T4 inside your base where it was safe... I think the kids call it "risk/reward"? I don't play 3s and 4s but I'm fairly certain that most maps are all big enough so that even if you place T4 covering the 1st cap circle outside your base that it's safe enough that if you get pushed back that far then counterplay is fair enough.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 14:18 PMVipper

And what I suggest simply make punishment less severe.

In the end of the day if the risk is not worth the reward and currently in 4vs4 is not lets offer a discount to OKW that are built in base or even not allow them to be built outside the base.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 14:18 PMVipper

And what I suggest simply make punishment less severe.

In the end of the day if the risk is not worth the reward and currently in 4vs4 is not lets offer a discount to OKW that are built in base or even not allow them to be built outside the base.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 15:33 PMEtherealDragon

How does it make sense to encourage OKW to crutch on call-in doctrinal units in team games if their T4 is destroyed? You get all the reward of Flak cannon covering important ground and then can just call in Command Panther/Command Tiger/JT if it gets destroyed. Even if you force a token 60 fuel to rebuild base truck without the Panzer Auth. then the difference in 60 fuel between reteching PA + Stock unit and calling in a doctrinal unit favors the call-in almost every single time.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 16:37 PMelchino7

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Double standards between AVRE and Sturmtiger.
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Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:24 PMVipper

I personally consider AVRE a better vehicle even with the latest changes to the ST.
In addition ST is facing 60 range TDs that can penetrate reliably.

Any way, I do not consider 1 CP difference in between AVRE and ST as "double standards" from my part, since the difference already exist in the preview. I would really object for these 2 vehicles to have the same CP thou.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 18:25 PMelchino7

Double standards is asking for 1 to arrive sooner and the other later. You could have said there's a discrepancy and that both of them should either arrive at 9CP or 10CP as you say now.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 18:52 PMVipper

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ST move from 8 to 9
Avre move from 9 to 10

Actually I suggested both to be delayed by 1 CP.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 20:23 PMelchino7

I somehow read it as ST from 10 to 9 and Avre from 9 to 10