Change to Airlanding officier

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 19:16 PMSander93

And what do cost and timing disparities have to do with me only quoting the DPS numbers to prove that the claim that "UKF doesn't even have an effective long range infantry unit any more" is false?

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 20:47 PMthedarkarmadillo

accessibility. They have to pay a boat load for their infantry to be halfway effective. From the word go their infantry is disadvantaged. Sentiment was obviously in relation to Tommies being... Good. Not Tommies soaked with fuel and pumped full of muni.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 22:09 PMSander93

Unupgraded 4 men Infantry Sections have practically the same DPS at 35 range as G43 Panzerfusiliers. It's undeniable that Infantry Sections are excellent at long range, both unupgraded and upgraded, contrary to what was claimed. Which was also the only thing I was responding to.

Besides, Bolster and Platoon tech is about as expensive to get as a Battlegroup HQ with medics, and cheaper than Mechanized. Weapon Racks and Company tech are cheaper than the Schwerer. The upgrade costs per squad are nearly identical at 25mp/80mu vs 28mp/90mu. Accessibility compared to Panzerfusiliers isn't much of an issue, and neither is scalability.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 18:38 PMVipper

Yes I have


The majority of SMG where designed like that and for good reason. "Elite" Thompson where the exception because USF elite infantry already come with great weapons.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 14:32 PMSander93

Double Bren Infantry Sections have 22,5 DPS at 35 range.
G43 Panzerfusiliers have 11,6 DPS at 35 range.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2020, 00:21 AMLoopDloop

Then you would know that in practice pgrens are still very good on the move. Not ~90% DPS retention good but nothing besides the G43s are like that so that shouldn’t be your base of comparison.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2020, 00:21 AMLoopDloop

Exactly. And that’s why airlanding officer wouldn’t be crazy oppressively strong or anything. I think they should lose the ability to pick brens up from racks though, because with them they might be too good in the lategame.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2020, 00:21 AMLoopDloop

Also, I’ve said it before but 35 mp is a pretty high reinforce cost for an assault unit that isn’t super standout great in any regard right out the gate.

Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 22:09 PMSander93

Unupgraded 4 men Infantry Sections have practically the same DPS at 35 range as G43 Panzerfusiliers. It's undeniable that Infantry Sections are excellent at long range, both unupgraded and upgraded, contrary to what was claimed. Which was also the only thing I was responding to.

Besides, Bolster and Platoon tech is about as expensive to get as a Battlegroup HQ with medics, and cheaper than Mechanized. Weapon Racks and Company tech are cheaper than the Schwerer. The upgrade costs per squad are nearly identical at 25mp/80mu vs 28mp/90mu. Accessibility compared to Panzerfusiliers isn't much of an issue, and neither is scalability.

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2020, 16:18 PMthedarkarmadillo

Now I'm starting to feel like I'm getting conflicting reports on fussies.i was told,by you, that fussies DONT have good long range dps,that they have "somewhat decent DPS" how is that that tommies are undeniably excellent at long range but by your own words fussies with almost the same dps are only somewhat decent?

Jump back to quoted post15 Feb 2020, 00:21 AMLoopDloop

Then you would know that in practice pgrens are still very good on the move. Not ~90% DPS retention good but nothing besides the G43s are like that so that shouldn’t be your base of comparison.

Exactly. And that’s why airlanding officer wouldn’t be crazy oppressively strong or anything. I think they should lose the ability to pick brens up from racks though, because with them they might be too good in the lategame.

Also, I’ve said it before but 35 mp is a pretty high reinforce cost for an assault unit that isn’t super standout great in any regard right out the gate.