Some changes for soviet airborne weapon drops

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 06:22 AMdistrofio

Uhmm, no.

Your post claims airborne weapons are good, but you want them even "better".
Thats not a healthy balance idea m8

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 05:37 AMZeroZeroNi

The airborne weapon drops are great. It's very cost efficient all over the map weapon racks.
The whole consensus of the svt cons being OP is something I don't wanna get to.

The thing is PPSH for penals doesn't work. Sure they shred infantry. Not even axis cqc's can stand up to them but it's a huge sacrifice for their svt's which are strong at all ranges. also since they have no nades it kinda make's the shock penals kinda not as useful. Also AB guards in the commander get them for free and they have nades and smoke.

Also AB guards can't really use these drops either.

So here is an idea for the change.
1. Increase the cost to 60 muni(i would want to make cons get 5 svt's but everyone thinks they are OP)
2. Give penals a dp28 with these upgrade with button ability
3. Give AB guards 3x PTR's wit at volley ability

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 10:23 AMAcidfreak

1. IMO 60 is too much

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 10:23 AMAcidfreak

1. IMO 60 is too much
2. U do realize giving penals button will allow other penals to satchel the tank? This exists in regular guards play but we have AT strafe in this commander. It will be too OP. Like stop the tank from afar and wham rockets from akr and tank gone.
3. If we give ptrs to abguards what will be the difference left between regular guards and air guards?

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 10:29 AMT.R. Stormjäger

1. No
2. Hell no
3. Hell no

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 15:08 PMBoz_Hower

Why compare Assault Gren to practically every other unit that is not an early game shock unit?
Penal are mainline, Assualt Gren are early shock they fill a different role and equipped for different task

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 15:23 PMBoz_Hower

Isn't they make it to 6th man so any surviving squad contribute to late game fight and not a burden that you have to get rid of them?
Whenever I saw anyone using Assault Gren as their mainline I always eat them with just Riflemen unless they ambushing

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 15:35 PMZeroZeroNi

What do mean any surviving squad??? if your a competent player non of your squads should die.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 15:45 PMBoz_Hower

So if you that competent then let limit Assault Gren to only 3-4 squads that you can call in for entire game and any lost squad is never replaceable or even further let limit everything to only couple of unit and you can't never replace them again
Human mistakes and side factors exist, top player still lost some units from time to time. It is encouraged to not lose squad BUT thing can happen
Beside, at late game, I don't see why you want Assault Gren when they can get chew on by double LMG unit before they can sprint to effective range? Unless that a CQC map sure go-ahead
Edit: Add a ,

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 16:03 PMZeroZeroNi

1 Question first, why are we talking about ass grens????
And yeah, no shit Sherlock.
Only USF squad require no skill to use. All other squads are in the game require some skill to use.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 16:17 PMBoz_Hower

1st: "PPSh penals beat even 6 man a grens"
2nd: 2 Bren gun IS, 2 DP28 Guard, 3 DP28 Para Guard, 2 Bren Commando, Penal
Wanna hear more squad that can chew on a sprining Assault Gren that is not a USF unit?
Shocktroop, Guard Rifle, Guard Assualt Rifle, Para Guard, Commando, Infantry Section, Penal.
Don't mistake your ability to unable take on a unit with a way weaker unit for balancing issue
The only thing I agree that I might have sidetracked the core topic
Edit: For the reason I asked in the first place is because you compare Assualt Gren to PPsH Penal as they are different role for a different job

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2020, 16:48 PMZeroZeroNi

Well did not take into account that I was talking to a complete moron.
No shit Sherlock all of these thing chew through grens, pgs, stoms too. Anymore obvious facts you wanna throw in for your lack of argument skills.

The reason i compared 6 man ass grens and ppsh penal was price point. for 45 munis being able to beat a cqc squad with a 60 muni upgrade is pretty strong and not too much.

Since it's obvious that you play nothing but USF (judging by the fact you expect to put no effort and win engagement and just the idea of flanking makes you thinks the unit is utterly useless) It might be hard to except that using skill to win engagements is a thing.