Since airborne guards are getting tact assault i think it time to make strom trooper and gurads have same cqc dps.
guards have 85.2 dps (0-10)
stroms have 74.8 dps (0-10)
here is the adjustment I wanna see.
increase stromtropper from 340mp to 375mp/400mp
near range burst multiplier increased from 1 to 1.5
near range cooldown increased from 0.15 to 0.25
this will make mp40's to 20.6 dps each and whole squad ~82.4 dps same as mandos ~82.5
And if anyone is wondering what the curves would looklike, here it is:
https://imgur.com/a/V3unJPi
Buff stormtrooper mp40
25 Jan 2020, 15:06 PM
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25 Jan 2020, 15:12 PM
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Guards cost more.
Guards have to pay for upgrade.
Guards don't have camo with ambush bonus.
Guards can't pick their encounters.
There is no balance reason why squads of 2 different roles had same dps.
Guards have to pay for upgrade.
Guards don't have camo with ambush bonus.
Guards can't pick their encounters.
There is no balance reason why squads of 2 different roles had same dps.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
25 Jan 2020, 15:22 PM
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Guards cost more.
Guards have to pay for upgrade.
Guards don't have camo with ambush bonus.
Guards can't pick their encounters.
There is no balance reason why squads of 2 different roles had same dps.
I suggested price increase for stroms too but seems like you have tunnel vission.
The ppsh upgrades are free dude know your facts correctly.
and so what is they don't storms don't have bonus with their camo either
No one can pick their encounters.
That's why this is not in the balance section dude. Again tunnel vision on your part.
25 Jan 2020, 15:26 PM
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This is Axis codguy, but with DPS curves and crazier ideas.
25 Jan 2020, 15:30 PM
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This is Axis codguy, but with DPS curves and crazier ideas.
OK but i don't say they suck though. And dps curves are fun to make. Oh and please comment about my curves I work hard to make em.
25 Jan 2020, 15:31 PM
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OK but i don't say they suck though. And dps curves are fun to make. Oh and please comment about my curves I work hard to make em.
I refuse to say I like your curves.
25 Jan 2020, 15:34 PM
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I refuse to say I like your curves.
it makes me sad. So can you you point out the mistakes and advise me to make them better.
25 Jan 2020, 15:39 PM
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it makes me sad. So can you you point out the mistakes and advise me to make them better.
Reread the previous post, it has a 2nd meaning.
25 Jan 2020, 15:47 PM
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Reread the previous post, it has a 2nd meaning.
i know you don't wanna fuel the fire m8. But it aint that bad.
25 Jan 2020, 17:07 PM
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If they are equiped with smgs they simply need to become 5 entities with the same DPS
25 Jan 2020, 17:09 PM
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If they are equiped with smgs they simply need to become 5 entities with the same DPS
Still the dps is too low.
25 Jan 2020, 17:11 PM
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Permanently BannedThis is Axis codguy, but with DPS curves and crazier ideas.
Not really, a few days ago he thought agrens were op. So I wouldn't say he's biased towards a faction.
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25 Jan 2020, 17:16 PM
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Still the dps is too low.
The problem is not their DPS but the drop of DPS when they lose even a single model and the fact that it is probable that each entity fires on difrent enemy entity.
If they focus fire a single entity according to your numbers they kill it in around a second...
25 Jan 2020, 17:18 PM
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Permanently BannedMy gripe with the storm mp40 is their tactical assault is rarely useful since mp40 midrange dps drops off sharply. I think the tac assault should temporarily boost the midrange dps on top of the overall increased accruacy.
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25 Jan 2020, 17:28 PM
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Airborne Guards shouldn't get this ability in the first place IMO. We don't need more buffs to Soviet units. The LMG airborne guards are already strong and the cheaper strafe ability should be enough to make them more interesting. The problem they suffer from is that you don't need more AI units when you have 3-4 SVT Cons already. They are only really useful for replacing wiped SVT Conscripts IMO.
25 Jan 2020, 17:37 PM
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Guards cost more.
Guards have to pay for upgrade.
Guards don't have camo with ambush bonus.
Guards can't pick their encounters.
There is no balance reason why squads of 2 different roles had same dps.
guards are 6 models
Guards have good AI and AT and time AT snare
Guards will not wipe out easily by indirect fire and shells
dont tell us everytime only the downsides from one unit...
25 Jan 2020, 17:38 PM
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Not really, a few days ago he thought agrens were op. So I wouldn't say he's biased towards a faction.
Hey, your the idiot who thought that i thought they were OP. Even though I wrote they were not. But you are way to blind to see that. Maybe I shou put that is bold for dyslexic people like you.
25 Jan 2020, 17:46 PM
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Hey, your the idiot who thought that i thought they were OP. Even though I wrote they were not. But you are way to blind to see that. Maybe I shou put that is bold for dyslexic people like you.
The truth is that you ignored concrete evidence presented to u by Stug Life. Anyways, I was defending u from being called "Axis codguy"
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25 Jan 2020, 18:08 PM
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The truth is that you ignored concrete evidence presented to u by Stug Life. Anyways, I was defending u from being called "Axis codguy"
I never ignored anything, i pointed out why his results ere different. And even then then my nitpickin doesn't mean they are OP. If you think that your an idiot.
25 Jan 2020, 18:10 PM
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My gripe with the storm mp40 is their tactical assault is rarely useful since mp40 midrange dps drops off sharply. I think the tac assault should temporarily boost the midrange dps on top of the overall increased accruacy.
I well it could be a solution to buff it's burst mid and long range and nerf it's acc.
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