COH2 winter balance mod - discussion

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2020, 21:05 PMShadowLinkX37

no changes to pfusis, no changes to bunkers. no changes to panther vet. vetted TDs etc. Maybe fixes 1/12 of the issues with 3v3+ currently

The meta might shift away from heavies depending on how nerfed they are. But fusi blobs will still be there. Bunker spam will still be there. god like 60 range TDs will still be there. Jaegar armor will still be god along with soviet ISU/IL2. You're changing what looks like the bare minimum in regards to teamgames.

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2020, 21:45 PMAlphrum

??? no change to the Pershing AOE??

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2020, 21:51 PMSmartie

Removing the Tank Commander from the Tiger I is a bad idea. Why should the best unit in Grand Offensive not be able to use a doctrinal ability? I really dont understand it.
If this change stays then you should be consistent and replace Tank commander from Grand Offensive.

I also dont understand why the pak howie - a unit that is clearly overperforming in teamgames- is not touched.

Good change to the Puma, though.

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2020, 21:55 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Pershing should definitely not be left as is.

As for the Tiger, it’s command Tiger aura is basically useless. Since the unit is getting nerfed I think the ability should be removed and replaced with something useful, like aura buffs to nearby units.

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2020, 22:51 PMSully

Still no changes to the IR HT despite overwhelming feedback that the 1.0 version is dead on arrival? I worry that the current version will just be lazily released, making 1/3 of Battlegroup tech useless. Or some clunky untested changes will get shoved through on patch release.

SturmTiger and Command Panther still lock out the KT? Remove this limitation already, it's a relic of the call in meta that has already been addressed by tying everything to tech.

An additional quadruple nerf to the Tiger, on top of the CP nerf? What happened to the slow, gradual approach? At least make the aura a useful ability.

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2020, 00:08 AMNorthFireZ

Nices changes Puma changes is super nice and we might see Mobile Defense again in the doctrine lineup.

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2020, 22:51 PMSully

Still no changes to the IR HT despite overwhelming feedback that the 1.0 version is dead on arrival? I worry that the current version will just be lazily released, making 1/3 of Battlegroup tech useless. Or some clunky untested changes will get shoved through on patch release.

SturmTiger and Command Panther still lock out the KT? Remove this limitation already, it's a relic of the call in meta that has already been addressed by tying everything to tech.

An additional quadruple nerf to the Tiger, on top of the CP nerf? What happened to the slow, gradual approach? At least make the aura a useful ability.

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2020, 00:08 AMNorthFireZ

M5 to 3 cp is weird but I think where you're going with this. No clown cars allowed.

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2020, 14:36 PMButcher

Those heavy tank nerfs will hit Ostheer harder than the other factions.

You can play Soviets without the IS-2, you can play USA without the Pershing (+ that one isn't even affected), but you cripple yourself as Ost if you don't get the Tiger since it replaces Tier 4 entirely.

That wouldn't be so bad if there were Tier 4 buffs impending but a mere 20 armor on the Brummbär and fiddling with the tech cost isn't going to make Ost lategame viable out of the sudden.

The lategame faction will struggle way more in the upcomign patch in the lategame.

All while Brits get (deserved) straight up buffs. Meanwhile Ost can eat shit.

P. S. does this nerf also affect the Tiger Ace or just the regular Tiger?