COH2 winter balance mod - discussion

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:32 AMLago

As a unit, it's a more distinct than the old one.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 06:49 AMZeroZeroNi

The only reason it's distinct is because of it's god awful camo.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:05 AMSelvy289

As far as I'm concerned, it has more health and 10% better accuracy than the base tiger. Also don't discount the spear head and self repair ability. A reminder that the hull mg is 2x better than the base tiger due to no little.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:22 AMIncendiaryRounds

And since the balance team is SO vigilant on stuff that wipes easily like frag bombs, it's time to nerf zis barrage which doesn't give any time at all to pack up support weapons.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:09 AMMr Carmine

You watch imperial dane to much. He complains about the zis barrage to much.

To take your approach. Will we finaly nerf the teller in response? Will the rifle and bundle nade loose some their wiping power? The bundle nade also gives very little time to react. Even the rifle nade you cant dodge in time mostly with team weapons. And with the teller its just poof and no more light.
Will sov get a normal nade in return? Because that is a good reason the zis barrage must be effective. And it already got toned down not too long ago.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:17 AMzerocoh

Also, PLEASE BALANCE TEAM, Fix the damn .50cal being slowed down on yellow cover bug. I have been reporting this for ages and nobody seems to care

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:13 AMZeroZeroNi

The ZIS barrage is kinda cheesy though. It makes assaulting defensive positions way to easy. maybe lower the range on it a bit. also it wipes quite easy. I'm saying this cus if you loose 1 and the opponents uses it on your maxim it's a dead maxim cus of the death loop.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:20 AMLago

I'm not sure what that'd achieve.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:21 AMdistrofio

When it comes to buff IS blobs, noobs are taken account then? Why don't you say a thing about that?

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:22 AMIncendiaryRounds

And since the balance team is SO vigilant on stuff that wipes easily like frag bombs, it's time to nerf zis barrage which doesn't give any time at all to pack up support weapons.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:30 AMIncendiaryRounds

Yes that's the spirit. Because the new ace is hardly different from the normal tiger.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 03:07 AMIncendiaryRounds

Hardly a good ability as it means your main gun's swivel rotation has been locked to a small arc.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:55 AMMr Carmine

Its no more cheesy the a snare on a td or at gun imo. Or incdiary rounds on a suppression platform. A sniper wich can kill multyple models with one shot as vet ability. A raketten crew wich is easier to hide then a demo.

It making assaulting positions to easy i dont fully agree with. Because during the assault can soviets throw normal or bunble like grenades stock? Do they have sturdy breakthrough tanks stock?
Both answers is no.

The barrage and/or in combination with mortar and flare just creates an opening to take advantage off.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 08:00 AMZeroZeroNi

Are you even playing the same game as me dude????
You think the soviet attack is inefficient????? Ohhh.. boy I have nothing to say to you.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:16 AMzerocoh

ZiS barrage is just too cheap IMO, 35 muni is the same for a single nade, while the Zis fires 3 "grenades" at 60 range. Make it 45-50 munis and it will fine.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 08:20 AMMr Carmine

Where did a say that?
Is it factualy wrong what i said?

And if you only see what you want instead of what is written please dont respond. And because the siz can work against a bugged deathloop maxim does not make it op or cheesy.

I said that to state the zis barrage is not op its not cheese because soviets lack things that other factions do have.
I use the siz barrage to good effect i love this ability, but it hardly one shots anything, in my experience a lucky second hit does however. I use it to steer blobs in other directions from time to time. Allowing my maxim to setup or escape a deathloop situation.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 08:45 AMZeroZeroNi

Oh... Please don't bullshit me. You know what you were saying.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:55 AMKatitof

It would stop certain players rectal bleeding.


Pro players also have to use them out of cover at times and they suck hard in their hands too.
No rocket science here.

Boiii, do I have a news for you:
Show Spoiler

I'll let you on a little secret:
Its the exact same tiger model.
It wasn't covered in additional Ubermenschium plating, its crew simply can do more, which is portrayed in the game now.

Oh and its still more durable.

Just a moment ago you said you are so good that you are easily able to overcome units shortcomings when it came to old TA, where did that go? Did you went full noob since that post?

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 07:09 AMMr Carmine

You watch imperial dane to much. He complains about the zis barrage to much.

To take your approach. Will we finaly nerf the teller in response? Will the rifle and bundle nade loose some their wiping power? The bundle nade also gives very little time to react. Even the rifle nade you cant dodge in time mostly with team weapons. And with the teller its just poof and no more light.
Will sov get a normal nade in return? Because that is a good reason the zis barrage must be effective. And it already got toned down not too long ago.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 08:52 AMMr Carmine

You are the one talking bs here. I know what i was saying. You think you know what i was saying.