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29 Jan 2020, 02:23 AM
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When it comes to buff IS blobs, noobs are taken account then? Why don't you say a thing about that?


Apparently balance team cared about NOOBS when they said TA was OP and forced a massive fuel investment into it now. Not a single pro complained about old TA being OP. TA is useless now compared to normal tiger which is way cheaper. But of course Katitof was silent on that.
29 Jan 2020, 02:24 AM
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Oh ya know it doesn't hurt, since 50mp cheaper usf nades apparently doesn't hurt either.


That's not really a reason to do it.


Apparently balance team cared about NOOBS when they said TA was OP and forced a massive fuel investment into it now. Not a single pro complained about old TA being OP. TA is useless now compared to normal tiger which is way cheaper. But of course Katitof was silent on that.


Are you referring to the patch that reworked the TA into a Super Tiger? Do you really prefer the one that turns your income off?
29 Jan 2020, 02:24 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:24 AMLago


That's not really a reason to do it.


Well apparently that's the reason usf nades are cheaper, cuz BAL TEAM "FEELS LIKE IT"
29 Jan 2020, 02:25 AM
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Well apparently that's the reason usf nades are cheaper, cuz BAL TEAM "FEELS LIKE IT"


USF nades are cheaper because they're off-meta.
29 Jan 2020, 02:25 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:24 AMLago


That's not really a reason to do it.




Are you referring to the patch that reworked the TA into a Super Tiger? Do you really prefer the one that turns your income off?


Yeah I like the old one way better because I'm a pro that knows how to deal with the shortcomings of it.
29 Jan 2020, 02:26 AM
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Yeah I like the old one way better because I'm a pro that knows how to deal with the shortcomings of it.


You mean do as much damage as you can as quickly as you can, then throw it away?

The old Tiger Ace was dumb. The new one's a much better unit.
29 Jan 2020, 02:27 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:25 AMLago


USF nades are cheaper because they're off-meta.


"Off meta? Seems brummbar should get a price reduction too then."
29 Jan 2020, 02:30 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:26 AMLago


You mean do as much damage as you can as quickly as you can, then throw it away?

The old Tiger Ace was dumb. The new one's a much better unit.


Yes that's the spirit. Because the new ace is hardly different from the normal tiger.
29 Jan 2020, 02:32 AM
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"Off meta? Seems brummbar should get a price reduction too then."


I'm not sure that'd fix it.


Yes that's the spirit. Because the new ace is hardly different from the normal tiger.


As a unit, it's a more distinct than the old one.
29 Jan 2020, 02:33 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:32 AMLago


I'm not sure that'd fix it.




As a unit, it's a more distinct than the old one.


LOL WHAT?????? The old one punches WAYYYYY harder. The new ace is a vet 1 tiger. With a pathetic ability called spearhead at vet 2
29 Jan 2020, 02:47 AM
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LOL WHAT?????? The old one punches WAYYYYY harder. The new ace is a vet 1 tiger. With a pathetic ability called spearhead at vet 2


Spearhead suppresses.
29 Jan 2020, 03:07 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 02:47 AMLago


Spearhead suppresses.


Hardly a good ability as it means your main gun's swivel rotation has been locked to a small arc.
29 Jan 2020, 03:20 AM
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Where were you for the launch of OKW?

And bugs aren't balance decisions. They are accidents. As this mod shows there's a lot of them in the game...
I call them happy little accident , cause i got some free wins during Stuart bug :romeoHype:
29 Jan 2020, 03:20 AM
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Hardly a good ability as it means your main gun's swivel rotation has been locked to a small arc.


If you couldn't work around that nobody would use the ISU-152.
29 Jan 2020, 03:22 AM
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Im interested to know old tiger ace performance?
29 Jan 2020, 03:24 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 03:22 AMmrgame2
Im interested to know old tiger ace performance?


It started at Vet 3.

However, calling it in would almost completely stop your income, meaning its survival was actively detrimental to winning.

It was a strange mechanic that was axed for a reason.
29 Jan 2020, 03:25 AM
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I call them happy little accident , cause i got some free wins during Stuart bug :romeoHype:


Okay? And lots of OKW players got free wins during the KTs glory days, what is your point?

Gamebreaking things have been on all sides. Its worse when its a conscious decision than when its a bug...

Every major patch comes with tons of bug fixes and a few new bugs. Welcome to coh2
29 Jan 2020, 03:28 AM
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How about its stats? Vet3 grant it turbo fire from the go, but any nerf to its stats?

Seems like new tiger ace is better? Spear head more sight and self healing.

At least you can play it as normal tiger to vet3 instead of no more income. You still get your turbo fire
29 Jan 2020, 03:59 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 03:28 AMmrgame2
How about its stats? Vet3 grant it turbo fire from the go, but any nerf to its stats?

Seems like new tiger ace is better? Spear head more sight and self healing.

At least you can play it as normal tiger to vet3 instead of no more income. You still get your turbo fire


The new Tiger Ace is more expensive, better Tiger.

The old one started out as a CP17 pay-to-win GG button and was progressively nerfed until it was a GG button for the opponent.
29 Jan 2020, 04:06 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jan 2020, 03:20 AMLago


If you couldn't work around that nobody would use the ISU-152.


Comparing apples and oranges here. ISU has better range and more reliable damage.
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