Ostheer pioners could have inverse dps

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so they can kill themselves faster in combat
their dps is pathetic

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Pios are a engineer troop, not a combat one

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25 Dec 2019, 20:29 PMdistrofio

Pios are a engineer troop, not a combat one

Wot?

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25 Dec 2019, 20:48 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Wot?

Do you want sturmpios on ost?

What are assault grenadiers for then?

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Imagine thinking pioneers are weak

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They're engineers that only cost 200MP, what did you expect? Sturmpioneers? If you really want to see a weak starting engineer unit, take a look at USF.

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25 Dec 2019, 20:29 PMdistrofio

Pios are a engineer troop, not a combat one

What??? So i'v been living my whole life a lie. Good bye 5-man flame pios you just can't exist in this world.

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25 Dec 2019, 20:18 PMDerKuhlmann

so they can kill themselves faster in combat
their dps is pathetic

try fighting cons from close will work wonders.

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25 Dec 2019, 23:27 PMkonfucius

Imagine thinking pioneers are weak

Right? Not only is their DPS enough to trade well or even win vs main line troops like conscripts and rifleman when ambushing them, they are also amazing at spotting enemies for your MG42, often allowing Ost to win the first engagement. Not shabby at all for a 200mp builder unit.

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Then royal engineer definitely should get the same treatment since they come from a higher tier and cost slightly more but have identical dps profile with pio.

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26 Dec 2019, 16:29 PMSupport Sapper

Then royal engineer definitely should get the same treatment since they come from a higher tier and cost slightly more but have identical dps profile with pio.

But have a snare and can get a 5th model and can pick up lmg or AT weapons...

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I'd say their "low" dps is more than made up for by the instant death they can potentially deliver to a light tank...

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26 Dec 2019, 16:29 PMSupport Sapper

Then royal engineer definitely should get the same treatment since they come from a higher tier and cost slightly more but have identical dps profile with pio.

Lmao what? Royal engineers are beastly when fully upgraded. Terrible comparison.

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25 Dec 2019, 23:45 PMRaxzero

They're engineers that only cost 200MP, what did you expect? Sturmpioneers? If you really want to see a weak starting engineer unit, take a look at USF.

To be fair the brits have the bofors which takes out infantry , light vehicles, medium vehicles, light tanks,medium tanks and aircraft as well acing as an artillery piece for only 280 manpower which is only 80 manpower more than a pioneer.

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28 Dec 2019, 23:43 PMthekingsown10

To be fair the brits have the bofors which takes out infantry , light vehicles, medium vehicles, light tanks,medium tanks and aircraft as well acing as an artillery piece for only 280 manpower which is only 80 manpower more than a pioneer.

Update your game.
Bofors is suppression platform that does light damage to infantry and is threat to lights exclusively left in its range for longer time.

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

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