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Since I play this game, the question about the ability of the main infantry to build green covers was a thing. I even remember the consensus about preventing the ability to ostheer to build any green covers. Because lmg grenadiers behind green covers could be too strong and overpowered.

However, almost all mainline infantries are able to build green covers right now.

Cons obviously.
Volks obviously.
Infantry section.
Riflemen with a commander ability.

So, what do you think about this ? Should this ability switch to engineers exclusively. Instead of the actual situation ? To be far less spammable and more fair to all factions ? Or it's fine as it is. I am kind curious.

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It's mostly fine, Volksgrenadiers are the only ones I say need to lose it. Conscripts have it because they're lackluster at range and it's the only thing that allows them to repel attackers early on. Sections have it because they're straight up crippled without cover. Riflemen get it on a Commander ability and that's fine because they don't have it at all otherwise.

Volksgrenadiers though have it because of an old faction design that no longer applies. Current Volksgrenadiers are highly cost effective, perform well at range, and have an upgrade that boosts close range performance. Unlike the other 3, the sandbags are not covering a weakness, they're amplifying their abilities.

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Yes mainline do not need the extra utility of building sandbag, if they have it they should be very very slow at it.

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8 Dec 2019, 16:47 PMJadek

Since I play this game, the question about the ability of the main infantry to build green covers was a thing. I even remember the consensus about preventing the ability to ostheer to build any green covers. Because lmg grenadiers behind green covers could be too strong and overpowered.

However, almost all mainline infantries are able to build green covers right now.

Cons obviously.
Volks obviously.
Infantry section.
Riflemen with a commander ability.

So, what do you think about this ? Should this ability switch to engineers exclusively. Instead of the actual situation ? To be far less spammable and more fair to all factions ? Or it's fine as it is. I am kind curious.

I think it would be a bad nerf to an already UP UKF faction. The only faction that I could maybe see it happen to is OKW, and even there I'm not so sure it is a good idea because I wouldn't want to be forced to buy a second Sturmpio just to build sandbags.

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I agree for the most part, but being able to create situations where you can fight from a position of strength is a huge aspect of this game.

If you take it from volks, storms should be given the ability to make tank traps.
If you take it from cons, either combat engineers should get it or give it back to cons upon 7 man upgrade.
I'm mostly ok with it on infantry sections given how reliant they are on cover though you could have them build a light cover instead of heavy cover.
Rifles are fine since its doctrinal.

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Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
Last Thursday, 15:46 PM

Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
Last Thursday, 09:34 AM

Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
Last Thursday, 09:32 AM

Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
Last Thursday, 09:30 AM

Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy

Last Thursday, 04:31 AM

Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
Last Tuesday, 18:27 PM

Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific.

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24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM

Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM

Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM

Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM

Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM

Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM

Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM

Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM

Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM

webdesign-muenchen-w: @Rosbone it is sick
14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM

aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM

Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM

adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM

Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM

Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM

Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM

Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM

Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM

Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM

Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM

Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM

OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM

Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM

Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM

Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM

theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM

theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM

theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM

theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM

theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM

theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
12 Mar 2025, 03:51 AM

KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM

OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM

aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM

Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM

OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked!

06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM

Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then?
06 Mar 2025, 03:20 AM

Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive.

05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM

Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM

Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM

Rosbone: Relic wants Coh2 to fail so players will migrate to Coh3. It is hard to blame them since Coh3 sucks so bad. It needs all the help it can get.
04 Mar 2025, 02:53 AM

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OKSpitfire: @aerafield that does sound familiar
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aerafield: @Lady Xenarra

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Lady Xenarra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndJx2yq79ZY
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Lady Xenarra: Ah, the gren faust-replacing-rifles bug/exploit.

01 Mar 2025, 18:24 PM

aerafield: CoH3 high elo is truly the dumbest CoH experience that ever existed
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aerafield: @OKSpitfire tbh I find it quite challenging to get the Pershing in time, having to suffer through the CoH3 tickrate and this endless bullshit meta of massive blobs going back and forth to the forward heal truck
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OKSpitfire: Well... going to be seeing the Pershing a lot for a little while, that thing is a monster.
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NigelBallsworth: axis stuff is getting more meme by the second
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aerafield: Cloaked instapin MGs at 0cp. I wanna see no more crying about the Dingo while that shit is in the game