smoke canisters

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 00:35 AMT.R. Stormjäger

I’m sure you’ll be thinking that when I shoot a smoke shell at your MG then overwhelm your AT infantry with Panzergrenadiers.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 00:43 AMShadowLinkX37

Like all this stuff is available to USF and UKF yet it isn't game breaking. Why is OST suddenly going to shatter the game?

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 01:23 AMSkysTheLimit

Only issue I see with that comparison is that it doesn't take into account that this ability is on ALL of your tanks

In the past someone had suggested making it a cheap upgrade that you needed to purchase for each vehicle. I liked that idea, as long as it's not exclusive with the mg

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 01:26 AMShadowLinkX37

I mean it's not like it needs to be an all or nothing thing. It could easily be only available to certain units if need be.

Alternatively we could just add like a 3 second drop time on the current smoke so it doesn't act as an autoattack shield you use after you take a shot.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 01:26 AMShadowLinkX37

I mean it's not like it needs to be an all or nothing thing. It could easily be only available to certain units if need be.

Alternatively we could just add like a 3 second drop time on the current smoke so it doesn't act as an autoattack shield you use after you take a shot.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 15:39 PMmrgame2

Smoke canister is a skill shot

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 15:39 PMmrgame2

Come on now. Allies have doc access to crew repairs on all tanks that can fully repaired them. Should we add delays or cap at 70%?

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 15:39 PMmrgame2

Heck USF simply ignores this and get free repairs/popcap cheat.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 15:39 PMmrgame2

And yes USF and UKF have non-doc smoke.
Smoke canister is a skill shot that is required for Axis meta these days against oppressive 60Td. Nothing more nothing less.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 17:39 PMHannibal

Completely different topic which is also partly wrong. Stay focused.


Completely different topic again. Also you should not compare faction design features with a change to a doctrinal ability that has nothing to do with said feature.


They do, just like Axis tanks have Blitzkrieg as utility. And Allied smoke is an actual skill shot that requires targeting and micro and also stops your tank. Panzer Tactician is one click of a button.

If you want people to debate seriously with you, you should start debating on a serious basis as well and not repeat bad or plain wrong arguments over and over again.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 10:53 AMHannibal

+1 to this.


Not sure why balance team has not implemented a delay yet or (as far as I know) given an argument why it would be a bad idea to implement.


What would also be a great ability is the Sherman smoke dischargers. You can keep driving if you micro well, use it offensively and defensively and your tank does not lose much DPS if you do it correctly. On the other hand it would be a nerf for players who are not able to use it and therefore create a slight learning curve and reward micro. The Smoke shell like the Cromwell's is also good, but way more situational as it causes your tank to rotate the turret and aquire a different target.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 18:26 PMKatitof

wow at the incoherent rumble of last 2 posts, just wow

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 18:04 PMmrgame2

60Td is also a click of a button.

Wehr smoke has been a faction design since day 1. Same with blitz. Every ability is a click button. Dont understand what you trying to say? Does clicking smoke or blitz, somehow teleports the tank from A to B and immune to fire? No, you still need to make the exit choice, you still can attack ground, drive a wrong turn, and the smoke doesnt cover you.

Usf crew repair while faction design, is broken. It was acceptable back when their tanks are more squishy, where Axis have armor that counts. Still the ability to exit, build new units, enter. Totally broken. While not the same topic, where are you on this? Why sound so high and mighty?

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 18:09 PMmrgame2

Ok smoke shots for P4 P5 P6, but you buff their turret tracking, their reload, their speeds, their moving accruacy.

There is your reason for smoke shells firing from turrets instead of their asses.

Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2019, 16:34 PMFire and Terror

and saying smoke shells would be op for wher is BIG BS since such thing exists its called stuka smoke drop and costs 40 mun while also prviding recon (this ability is balanced)