smoke canisters

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 20:21 PMthedarkarmadillo

Shooting the smoke shells requires far more micro and time. The thing about ptac is its an wz panic escape. It is undeniably better as an escape ability. Which, when combined with high armour values and blitz makes it even more potent.

But seeing as you would like an offensive ability, something discussed last time ptac was talked about was the smoke shooting ahead of the tank instead of on the tank. Naturally you would support this entirely because then it could be used offensively and would thus be better right?

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 20:26 PMCrecer13

But the Soviet tanks are definitely not enough smoke. T-34-76 must receive a smoke shell and T-34-85 receive smoke bombs that are already in the model; they work like Churchill smoke only without slowing down the speed.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 20:21 PMthedarkarmadillo

Shooting the smoke shells requires far more micro and time. The thing about ptac is its an wz panic escape. It is undeniably better as an escape ability. Which, when combined with high armour values and blitz makes it even more potent.

But seeing as you would like an offensive ability, something discussed last time ptac was talked about was the smoke shooting ahead of the tank instead of on the tank. Naturally you would support this entirely because then it could be used offensively and would thus be better right?

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 21:37 PMShadowLinkX37

I think it would be better if instead of skill tactician we had the doc slot give medium+ vehicles smoke shells like the cromwell so they can be used for both defensive or offensive purposes. I think the 222 and 251 could still retain the skill tac

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 21:55 PMT.R. Stormjäger

You wanna give us smoke shells on P4s to use with G43 Pgrens? Smoke AT guns from range and just overwhelm any defensive line. It would be a buff, not a nerf.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 22:13 PMthedarkarmadillo

It would be a design change. I right now cromwell can do it for commandos and Sherman's can do it for *insert Thompson wielding unit here* and you were just saying about how trash ptac was and how much better smoke shells are. One would think you would jump right on this. Unless of course your only saying so to down play 1 click escape smoke....

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 21:55 PMT.R. Stormjäger

You wanna give us smoke shells on P4s to use with G43 Pgrens? Smoke AT guns from range and just overwhelm any defensive line. It would be a buff, not a nerf.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 22:19 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Let me repeat myself.

P4 smokes AT guns. Then G43 Panzergrenadiers with vet 1 passive sprint and 0.95 moving accuracy G43s charge alongside the P4s.

I mean by all means, I’d probably enjoy the hell out of this, plus I load up Jaeger Inf, Mech Assault and Assault Support, so I don’t really use Panzer tactician.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 23:23 PMthedarkarmadillo

Combined arms op? But only when Ost uses it. Got it.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 21:55 PMT.R. Stormjäger

You wanna give us smoke shells on P4s to use with G43 Pgrens? Smoke AT guns from range and just overwhelm any defensive line. It would be a buff, not a nerf.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2019, 23:46 PMShadowLinkX37

All the more reason to nerf G43s moving accuracy since that thing is a drag box playstyle reinforcer.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 00:10 AMFarlion

The irony of when people want to nerf Panzer Tactician by replacing it with smoke shells.

Just this once I hope that is indeed an Axis nerf that becomes a thing.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 00:16 AMthedarkarmadillo

The irony of wanting something thats power is based on the players capability instead of their ability to literally click 1 button. Not terribly ironic...

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 00:20 AMFarlion

It is, because by giving smoke shells to Wehrmacht vehicles you completely neutralize any team weapon threat. Ostwinds could just rampage forward right into AT guns and MGs and wipe them before the supporting infantry could even push up, that's how broken it would be.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 00:31 AMShadowLinkX37

Mines and handheld AT and snares literally stop this.