what kills faster firefly or SU85?
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I'd recommend getting the coh2dps program for questions like this (it's only a little out of date), but here's what I have:
Firefly does 200 damage every 8.25 seconds
SU-85 does 160 damage every 5.65 seconds
So, SU-85 has a higher anti-vehicle DPS, but lower penetration. It gains penetration with vet, surpassing the Firefly. The Firefly instead gains damage, so its DPS and alpha strike ability are improved more with vet.
The answer to your question depends on the health and armor of the target, as well as the veterancy of the TD.
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I'd recommend getting the coh2dps program for questions like this (it's only a little out of date), but here's what I have:
Firefly does 200 damage every 8.25 seconds
SU-85 does 160 damage every 5.65 seconds
So, SU-85 has a higher anti-vehicle DPS, but lower penetration. It gains penetration with vet, surpassing the Firefly. The Firefly instead gains damage, so its DPS and alpha strike ability are improved more with vet.
The answer to your question depends on the health and armor of the target, as well as the veterancy of the TD.
Where can I get this "coh2dps program" from?
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Where can I get this "coh2dps program" from?
I forgot where to officially get it, but here's a link to my copy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ioocf34d9sq778f/coh2dpsnewui.html?dl=0
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I forgot where to officially get it, but here's a link to my copy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ioocf34d9sq778f/coh2dpsnewui.html?dl=0
Is this the same as this ?
https://coh2db.com/stats/
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It depends on the armor and HP on the target mostly.
For example:
320HP HT will die faster to the Su85.
400HP Puma will die faster to the FF.
In this cases pen doesn't matter. In the first case, both units require the same amount of reload cycles. In the 2nd case, the Su85 needs 2 reloads while the FF only needs one.
At 560 HP, FF is marginally better.
At 640 HP the Su85.
So on and so on.
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Depends on vet and hp pool but generally FF kills higher hp pool tank faster
No because FF bounces a lot on Axis heavies meanwhile SU 85 gets extra pen with vet.
SU 85 vet 0 far pen: 220
SU 85 vet 3 far pen: 286
Firefly vet 0 far pen: 210
Firefly vet 3 far pen: 210
If we take the example of KT
SU 85 vet 0 and 3 chance to hit at max range: 100%
SU 85 vet 0 and 3 chance to penetrate: 58,6 and 76,2%
So if we factor in chance to bounce on average a shot from the SU 85 will do 93,76 damage and at vet 3 121,92.
The KT has 1280 HP so it will on average take
13 reloads (reload+ ready and fire aim time) at 5.65 or
11 reloads (reload+ ready and fire aim time) at 4.57 (vet3) to kill it.
Which makes TTK.
Vet0 SU 85: 73,45 seconds
Vet3 SU 85: 50.27 seconds
Now the same with FF
Chance to hit at max range 100%
Chance to pen at vet 0 and 3: 56%
Average damage per shot vet 0: 112
Average damage per shot vet 3: 134.4
So at vet 0 it takes 11 reloads (reload+ ready and fire aim time) and on vet 3 9 reloads to kill the KT on average.
TTK:
90.65 seconds at vet 0
56.25 seconds at vet 3
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it always depends on the hp poll and by what number it can be divided
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that's why i said it depends, for example a VET 3 FF WILL KILL A Panther IN 4 shoots with 6,5 second reload , as su 85 will take 6 with 4.5 second reload
it always depends on the hp poll and by what number it can be divided
You forget that the SU 85 has more penetration and that a Panther has a pretty realistic chance to actually bounce a FF, especially after the Panther hits vet2.
The chance of a vet 3 FF hitting 4 penetrating shots in a row against a vet 2 Panther are only around 28%. Meanwhile the chance of a vet 3 SU 85 to hit 6 penetrating shots in a row is 100% because it has 286 far pen at vet 3 and the Panther armour is 286.
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the rocket always misses, if not the first one the second one will, its deisgned in a way that it will miss some shots
Both rockets can hit if you aim well against heavy tanks (Ele, Tiger, KT, JT, Sturmtiger). Against medium tanks I agree, it's next to impossible to hit with both rockets.
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and they area totaly over priced. U have to pay for upgrade 75 and for using it. U pay double!
September 2019 Balance Update:
- 60-Pound Tulip Rockets upgrade cost from 50 to 30; firing cost remains the same.
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Whereas the turreted firefly can still take the shot even if the hull of the tank is 360'ing around a single piece of fence.
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