#USFOP on Minsk

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2017, 01:06 AMTobis

It's the map, the cutoffs on the north side make it ridiculously hard for axis to hold vs brits of usf.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2017, 11:30 AMFinndeed

I have this map on perma-veto, and i think it should be removed from the 1v1 pool.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2017, 11:31 AM__deleted__

I think it should be REMOVED from all gamemodes

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2017, 11:50 AMaerafield

Yes even in 2v2 it's very annoying, especially as allies. It is very hard to end the match quickly because each side has a VP and the fuel point very close to the base. Axis just need to sit and wait until they have heavies out. And JP4, OKW Panther, Elefant or JT are ridiculous on this map because flanking is a joke here.

The middle flanking path left and right is so easy to defend, means you must flank from north / south VP's direction, and that path is long to drive and ends in a stupid bottleneck. You must pray your opponent is either blind or slow in his brain for that flanking attack to be successful, otherwise you have a very long retreat path and will lose a lot units cos of that.

Or in other words: a lot of times, minsk pocket is just a stale camp-fest for the middle VP, with a little harassment of the opponents' far VP here and there

+ the northern spawn is disadvantaged

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Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2017, 11:50 AMaerafield

Yes even in 2v2 it's very annoying, especially as allies. It is very hard to end the match quickly because each side has a VP and the fuel point very close to the base. Axis just need to sit and wait until they have heavies out. And JP4, OKW Panther, Elefant or JT are ridiculous on this map because flanking is a joke here.

The middle flanking path left and right is so easy to defend, means you must flank from north / south VP's direction, and that path is long to drive and ends in a stupid bottleneck. You must pray your opponent is either blind or slow in his brain for that flanking attack to be successful, otherwise you have a very long retreat path and will lose a lot units cos of that.

Or in other words: a lot of times, minsk pocket is just a stale camp-fest for the middle VP, with a little harassment of the opponents' far VP here and there

+ the northern spawn is disadvantaged

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