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The Non-Meta Commander Cup Season 2

2 Sep 2016, 23:24 PM
#22
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Since this is a team cup, you might consider setting it up this way:

Ban only the strongest commanders. Assign points to all others.

Like:

  • not-totally-meta-but-still-strong: 3 points
  • so-so commander: 2 points
  • close-to-useless commander: 1 point


The team in total than can pick commanders up to 4 points in total.

For example, Elite Armor and Blitzkrieg might be 3 points, German Infantry 1 point. So a mixed Axis team can not use Elite Armour & Blitzkrieg, but might roll with Elite Armor and German Infantry.

3 Sep 2016, 12:02 PM
#23
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Looking forward to it :thumbsup:

EDIT: didnt read close enough. :p
3 Sep 2016, 20:08 PM
#24
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Since this is a team cup, you might consider setting it up this way:

Ban only the strongest commanders. Assign points to all others.

Like:

  • not-totally-meta-but-still-strong: 3 points
  • so-so commander: 2 points
  • close-to-useless commander: 1 point


The team in total than can pick commanders up to 4 points in total.

For example, Elite Armor and Blitzkrieg might be 3 points, German Infantry 1 point. So a mixed Axis team can not use Elite Armour & Blitzkrieg, but might roll with Elite Armor and German Infantry.


This is actually a pretty good idea. Might use this for a third season?!
3 Sep 2016, 20:18 PM
#25
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You might want to reconsider the following commanders, otherwise they will get picked all the time (thus nullifying the spirit of the event):
- OKW Elite Armour
- SOV Terror
- SOV Industry
- OST Blitzkrieg
- USF Infantry

OST Luftwafe suply drop comander sems to be oddly missing :O


- OKW Elite Armour: OKW needs a heavy tank too. Thats why it has been added. AND its non meta!!! If you look at the heavy tanks of OKW:
- cp (?)
- king tiger
- jagd tiger
- sturm tiger

I can tell you that the sturm tiger is made the lest of these 4 ;)


- SOV Terror: People might pick this commander a lot, but i never/rarely see it in 2v2. They might pick this commander a lot bcs its actually good! So its not a bad commander, but i have the feeling it is rarely used.


- SOV Industry: There was a time that this commander was used a lot (not long ago, talking about after the huge change of this commander) but people will still choose an is2 or isu in stead of a kv2. Again a list of heavy tanks this time of the soviets:
-is2
-isu
-kv2

I can tell you again that the kv2 is the one that is being used way less then the other 2 ;)


- OST Blitzkrieg: You see this commander a lot in 1v1. I gues its usefull in 2v2 2. I think you are right about this one and remove it from the list :)


- USF Infantry: Needed a third usf commander. I think this one is used the fewest, thats why it has been added :D


OST Luftwafe suply drop comander sems to be oddly missing :O : I totally missed this commander
. It will be added!

Thanks for your post smith :thumb:
3 Sep 2016, 20:20 PM
#26
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Luftwaffe Supply Doctrine has been added.

Blitzkrieg Doctrine has been removed.
5 Sep 2016, 20:28 PM
#27
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what's the currentprize pool? :snfBarton:
5 Sep 2016, 22:13 PM
#28
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- USF Infantry: Needed a third usf commander. I think this one is used the fewest, thats why it has been added :D



How about replacing Infantry company with Rifle company? :D
6 Sep 2016, 12:51 PM
#29
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How about replacing Infantry company with Rifle company? :D

2 Calliope > 2 Priest
1 pershing = 2 Ezy8's

Priest (Infantry Company) it will be ;)
6 Sep 2016, 14:04 PM
#30
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2 Calliope > 2 Priest
1 pershing = 2 Ezy8's

Priest (Infantry Company) it will be ;)


Okie :D
12 Sep 2016, 05:47 AM
#31
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Gelskirchen refinery has been removed from the map pool and road to kharkov has been added.
12 Sep 2016, 14:08 PM
#32
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i have a question : Osstruppen doctrine is non-meta for 2v2 ? :new:
12 Sep 2016, 14:40 PM
#33
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A lot of people messaged me about some commanders that are/aren't allowed in this tourney. Thats why the following changes have been made:

1. Priest will be removed, a lot of people told me that the only reason why people will choose this commander is to use the atm really strong brownings. Because i dont want to see the same rifle spam with browning blob, I have decided to remove it.

Which brings me to point

2. Rifle Company and Airborne Company have been added

Rifle Company is kind of in the shadow of the pershing atm. People can show the strength of the ez-8 again ;) . Airborne has been added, bcs its a pretty non meta commander actually. Somebody asked my why it was missing and he was kind of right
, you rarely see it. Thats why this commander has been added 2!

3. Sturmtiger will be removed

A lot of people told me that everybody will pick sturmtiger above all the other commanders... This is why it has been removed, the fact that it isnt that non meta at all (which i didnt know srry ^^) in 2v2 also helped while i was making my decision. Its also very interesting to see how OKW will deal with the allies without having call-ins.


I want to thank all of you who messaged me and who posted in this thread for their feedback! I will always listen to what people have to say about my tournaments. These kind of changes due to your guys information make the tournaments better, and i think every tourney organizer should listen to the crowd thats screaming all kinds of things at them ;)
12 Sep 2016, 14:41 PM
#34
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i have a question : Osstruppen doctrine is non-meta for 2v2 ? :new:

It is :D
12 Sep 2016, 14:47 PM
#35
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Sturmtiger removed? So I have only 2 commanders as okw? this is a bit unplayble as okw, other 2 commanders is really shit for 2v2
12 Sep 2016, 14:56 PM
#36
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Sep 2016, 14:47 PMNashka
Sturmtiger removed? So I have only 2 commanders as okw? this is a bit unplayble as okw, other 2 commanders is really shit for 2v2


Agree why would you remove Sturmtiger :guyokay:
12 Sep 2016, 14:57 PM
#37
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its mean most players only can pick Overwatch doctrine ... cuz walking democharge pretty fun to use Kappa
12 Sep 2016, 15:01 PM
#38
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Sturmtiger turned out to be meta in 2v2. This is a non meta Cup. Means no meta :luvDerp:
I understand non SturmTiger action is FeelsBadMan, but its non meta so it has to be banned bcs otherwise it isnt a non meta tourney :)
You can still use 3 other docs, if you dont like it go ostheer B-)

The fact that most of you guys "cry" about the fact that okw has no call in atm only makes my opinion about this stronger. Its non meta bro ^^


And be honest to yourself, how would okw look without call ins? Maybe this is an eye opener for Relic?
12 Sep 2016, 15:30 PM
#39
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I'm not okw or ost fun or something, but u will get only allies wins in turney
12 Sep 2016, 15:39 PM
#40
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The goal of this tourney is to show non meta plays. With sturmtiger we wont reach that goal. If you think OKW cant win without call ins, think of something cool and unique to counter everything your opponent has without using call ins. We want to see new strats, not always the same call ins that save the day for OKW. I am pretty sure there are some hidden strats for the axis whicj are OpieOpie. You only need to search for them. If thats to much, you shouldnt sign up bcs thats the fun part of the tourney :)
12 Sep 2016, 17:40 PM
#41
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Sep 2016, 14:47 PMNashka
Sturmtiger removed? So I have only 2 commanders as okw? this is a bit unplayble as okw, other 2 commanders is really shit for 2v2


I count 3 :) But yes, To go for 2 OKW is maybe a bad idea now in this cup^^ --> 2 Wehrmacht.
Let the Sniper- 222- LMG Grens spam begin :). Or will we see some smart mg play ? ;)
Remember no brownings anymore

OKW:
Luftwaffe Ground Forces Doctrine
Feuersturm Doctrine
Overwatch Doctrine
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