The Theatre of History Episode 6: The Tiger I
3 Aug 2015, 17:42 PM
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Awesome work thanks.
3 Aug 2015, 17:50 PM
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Awesome work guys 
I've still got a question about the noise of tanks in general though.
Did the tankcrew had some kind of earplugs/Headphones? I can't imagine them being completely exposed to the noise?
I've still got a question about the noise of tanks in general though.
Did the tankcrew had some kind of earplugs/Headphones? I can't imagine them being completely exposed to the noise?
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3 Aug 2015, 18:09 PM
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One of the most fearsome tanks in history got one of the best write-ups in The Theatre of History. 
Well played, gentlemen. What a beast that thing was.
Well played, gentlemen. What a beast that thing was.
3 Aug 2015, 18:10 PM
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Not as beast as the KingTiger. 
3 Aug 2015, 18:45 PM
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Great article! In addition to how the article that shows how our perception of the Tiger is mostly smoke and mirrors allow me to first of all speak about the famous Tiger 131 at Bovington which was knocked out by a lowly Churchill as the round hit the mantlet and ricochetted into the crew compartment killing the gunner and driver. Heavy tanks could go down very quickly just as medium tanks could.
If you want some more perspective on just how vulnerable tiger's were by 1945 here's a quote about 76mm Shermans vs. Tigers from former Chieftain tank commander and history buff, Nicholas Moran:
If you want some more perspective on just how vulnerable tiger's were by 1945 here's a quote about 76mm Shermans vs. Tigers from former Chieftain tank commander and history buff, Nicholas Moran:
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3 Aug 2015, 18:52 PM
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very very nice pics and gifs.
oh and good writing too, of course.
oh and good writing too, of course.
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3 Aug 2015, 19:36 PM
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Good article.
Regarding the last section, yes the Tiger was a disaster from a war economic perspective. Building Tiger tank was way too expensive in matters of work time and resources. I am not even talk about the supply problems and the high amount of fuel these tanks needed.
Plus the Tigers were used incorrectly the most time, split in small and even smaller groups as some sort of infantry support tank and not in groups as General Guderian demands it.
Regarding the last section, yes the Tiger was a disaster from a war economic perspective. Building Tiger tank was way too expensive in matters of work time and resources. I am not even talk about the supply problems and the high amount of fuel these tanks needed.
Plus the Tigers were used incorrectly the most time, split in small and even smaller groups as some sort of infantry support tank and not in groups as General Guderian demands it.
3 Aug 2015, 19:48 PM
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3 Aug 2015, 20:40 PM
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Great lummel and fichtenmoped. I hope you will have time and determination to make more threads Like this.
+1.
+1.
3 Aug 2015, 20:44 PM
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Please Relic! Change Tiger Rate of Fire to give it more realism!
/end trolling
Great research and presentation!
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3 Aug 2015, 21:40 PM
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I've still got a question about the noise of tanks in general though.
Did the tankcrew had some kind of earplugs/Headphones? I can't imagine them being completely exposed to the noise?
Usually at least the Commander had headphones as far as I know ^^
3 Aug 2015, 22:26 PM
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Awesome work guys
I've still got a question about the noise of tanks in general though.
Did the tankcrew had some kind of earplugs/Headphones? I can't imagine them being completely exposed to the noise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvDJnsB-q4E
Just an FYI but Tigers were relatively quiet tanks, crazy I know. You can hear the low hum of the exhaust louder than the creak of the tracks and wheels. I think it has something to do with the realtively low RPM and the build quality in general. British and American tanks were a hell of a lot louder than their German counterparts, lots of squeaking and clanking, often losing the element of the surprise as a result.
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4 Aug 2015, 10:07 AM
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Permanently BannedAwesome work guys
I've still got a question about the noise of tanks in general though.
Did the tankcrew had some kind of earplugs/Headphones? I can't imagine them being completely exposed to the noise?
Yes they used internal microphones and headsets to communicate. German tankcrews used twowaycommunication. Send and recive. Russian tanks in General had no radiocommunication. Only some tanktypes could listen to the groupcommander, so German tanks used to focus and tried to take out the Russian 'command tank'.
In action, the German tankcommander gives his orders by intercommunication telephone to the crew.
The driver is reporting through the internal communications telephone. I.e. report sightings of enemy tanks or infantery.
The radio operator sets the radio to RECIEVE when in Combat.
Hearingprotection wasn't much used as nowadays. Maybe you have seen those action footages of Allied or Axis guncrews firing fieldguns and howitsers. Look at them closely: Open mouth. No fingers in their ears, or one or two in their ears.
4 Aug 2015, 14:52 PM
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Great stuff as always!
Also, lots of information on Tiger tanks crews in this documentary about one of the few "Tigers Aces":
[NB: it may have already been posted in another thread.]
Also, lots of information on Tiger tanks crews in this documentary about one of the few "Tigers Aces":
[NB: it may have already been posted in another thread.]
De minimis non curat praetor.
4 Aug 2015, 15:14 PM
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Wonderful write-up. Keep up the good work!
Please Relic! Change Tiger Rate of Fire to give it more realism!Also 6km sturmtiger range, Relic pls.
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4 Aug 2015, 17:45 PM
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Excellent job guys!! Thanks
5 Aug 2015, 09:06 AM
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Very nice!
5 Aug 2015, 15:29 PM
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Awesome work guys
I've still got a question about the noise of tanks in general though.
Did the tankcrew had some kind of earplugs/Headphones? I can't imagine them being completely exposed to the noise?
The answers given by others is correct. There was no form of ear protection other than what was offered by the headsets worn by some(not all crew members). Communication was done through intercommunication telephone, speaking tube, and touch signals. If I remember correctly the German Commander could talk over telephone/internal radio to the Driver and Radio Operator. The Gunner was communicated with via by speaking tube and by touch signals. The same method was used for messages from the commander to the loader, and between the gunner and loader.
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