Profile of Kyle

Ok I admitted: if this is a 2vs2 then 99% chance that I would be dead in 15 mins. But never seen this guy as a 1vs1 player before so I told myself, why not try ?

He was on the bad side of the map ( north ) so er yeah, kinda like a favor for a noobie like me.

Mostly M3 was use as a troops transport + increase fire power to the front, protect the flank from getting cut, not using them as spam like some people did.

First time ever I won against this guy ( god, he beat my ass soooo many times in 2vs2 ), he's a good boss to fight if you want to increase your level .

GG WP.

Will you stop saying 34/85 got better DPS then panther?

Its 0.4 DPS difference.

To picture it to you-its a SINGLE conscript model atacking something at max range.

You really believe its that much of an advantage or just want to chant nerf sov buff ger?

Use a T34/85mm to shoot at an infantry squad => 95% they will retreat

Ues a Panther to shoot at an infantry squad => 95% will laugh at your face and keep moving.

It's not a a myth, it's a fact now that T34/85mm is doing way better anti-infantry compare to Panther ( Even after upgrade with Upper MG42 )

Volksgrenadier properly my favorite of all time ( even from COH1 ). I don't know, I have been a long time fan of " Cheap infantry " like : Ostruppen, Volksgrenadier, Partisans even most of the time they are weak as fuck ^^.

M8 Grey Hound seems to be a " counter blob " unit like the Stuart light tank of the British in COH1. I guess people will think twice with Grenadiers spam and shit now.

The M36 jackson for me it's feel like a tank that will follow Sherman behind and use it " T30E16 HVAP-T Armor Piercing Rounds " to take out enemy tank rather than acting as a " scope " to take out enemy target from long range. This make me feel like US players will have to depend on numbers of tank rather than " 1 man army " ( I mean they make some shit like 2 double Sherman vet 1 will be better when going together right ? )

Last but not list, I really really really really hope they change the King Tiger into a doctrine unit . and the KT right now is just sooooooooooooooo ******************

Isn't this to much for a 1v1? Such fuel quantity to get a Tiger & a Panther - considering teching costs and all? If you have that huge amount of fuel, isn't much more viable to go double Tiger than Panther + Tiger?
Same for 2v2, instead building Panthers, isn't better to just call Tigers (you and your partner)? Until middle game and even beyond t3 + paks/even pzgrens with schreks will do just fine, then instead complicating your life with a versatile but so fragile and expensive unit with no such great AI abilities as Panther, wouldn't be more reasonable to go Tiger?
This is the problem. And the answer is not nerf Tiger. You will still see this unit used more than the Panther, unless it's nerfed to the ground. The solution in my view will be to cut the Panther costs in 2 ways:
1. a serious fuel cost decrease and maybe even a small mp one.
2. a smaller fuel cost decrease + T4 teching fuel cost decrease.

I must say that I agree with SSHeini.

A double Tiger with Pak support is better than teching so much and then get a Panther THAT only good against armor but shit against infantry. ( At least the T34/85mm and Panzer IV can kill infantry than this tank "

For 2vs2, It's better to get tier 3 and then Elephant + Tiger. We should remember that infantry numbers will always be more than tank so a P4 / Tiger can decrease their manpower better by killing infantry. Don't even use Panther to shoot infantry, it's just a waste of time

Because of this cost tech that make people ( Rus and Ger ) always do the same shit: Wait for Call in tank.

And please, if you not gonna decrease the price than at least make this tank got the same anti infantry firepower like T34/85mm or Panzer IV.

Not really relate to the topic but this is what I mostly see from people playing 2vs2( From Top players to Normal ). Mostly not always please remember that

1 ) I see lots of russian in 2vs2 start doing M3, Penal then Guards and masturbate until pack of T34/85mm came out ( That shit is so good against infantry and tank ). Other guy will go with ISU commander ( either Shock or Guards ), go tier 3 and then wait for ISU.

2 ) I see German players either do tier 1,2,3 or 1 and 3 then rush for a fast ostwind or P4. Nobody use Tier 4 ( at least in 99% of my game when I play Soviet ). A Elephant most of the time doing his job is to counter the ISU.

ISU is so good at squad wiped that makes your Vet 3 squad looks like a joke. Even if you keep them alive after so many intense micro, 80% that they will get wiped by either a 30muni mine or 1 shot ISU.

3 ) T34/85mm, ISU, Tiger, Elephant are the most popular tank on the block right now. IS2 is still there but I don't see a lot of people use it that much.

4 ) Do something about the god damn Russian mine. This thing squad wiped too much, it should only blow up like 2 or 3 man only, not the whole squad.
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Only reason for me to still go Tier 4 is when I use my special tactic to get Brumbar out in 12mins and after that is Panther. Panzerwerfer is a joke ( unless they faster the cool down )

It would be slightly unfair for the Panther to be as good vs infantry as the 85 dont you think?

Well if not as good as the T34/85mm, than can it be at least like a P4 ?

Cause this tank ain't hit anything