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Tigers are used with faust grens and a pak as overwatch. A faust will connect. Tigers are micro'ed backwards and the whole body is shifted so the turret rotates faster.

I dunno, i swear i circlestrafed an unsupported tiger just a few matches, i will try to find a replay.

I was exagerating a bit with that Tiger thing. I am aware that The Tiger's plate could be penetrated by T34/85, ISU or Su-85, but like you said, from different distances that generaly were under Tiger's range. A Tiger could destroy its target from 1500 - 2000 m. That's why the flat ground battles put german armor in advantage. Related to numbers, if we are to compare factions from 41 to 45, ratios were like 10 soviet tanks to 1 german. Dunno if in this statistic where also self propelled guns included, maybe not (I know germans had more self propelled - Stugs, Jagdpanzer, Jagdpanthers - than classic tanks).
Anyway, related to units abilities and performances they are different for sure and they should be. It's hard to keep things balanced in the meta with units having such different performances and abilities, but this is the goal. Having balance considering all that.

While that's generally true, however the 1 : 10 ratio is tottaly wrong. Like completely wrong. Soviets did have a slight numerical advantage,

Soviet German
6,590 5,200 - 41
24,446 9,300 - 42
24,089 19,800 - 43
28,963 27,300 - 44
15,400 ------ -45




Keep in mind that in 41-42 assault guns (stugs etc, were not included in german production numbers) and as you can see the production in tanks was only really different in 42 - showing a massive advantage to the soviets ( but still not really because assault guns are not included).

Keep in mind that the average tank engagement generally happened at around 1km.

StugE is just there for germans to have an easy mode.

Step 1: Spam T1+2 units
Step 2: Get 1 or 2 StugE @ 6cp
Step 3: Get tiger for easy win

The only counter a Soviet can field against this is going for an easy mode commander themselves, for example Guards motor.

The game would improve drastically if call-in tanks would require tech to get.

Recently i had a game where me and my opponent built T3. It was amazing. Simply great. Everything was so nice.

Exactly. Then let's give to PAK40 also this ability, what do you say? You will say no, of course. When I was talking by what is normal or not, I was referring from game point of view not reality. In the game, these should be purpose made guns: AT purpose. As for making the game similar to reality..... Tiger would bounce every shot, T34 should cost 100 mp and 20 fuel, conscripts should cost zero, mg42 would shred anything in its site, artilery would tear to shreds every unit on the map and so on....

Well, pak 40 gets target weakpoint which unfortunately is bugged (hopefully gets fixed) and has a 50% faster rate of fire. I think thats a fair tradeoff considering that 2 riflegrenades can do a much better job in clearing out a maxim or whatever and you will always have 2 grens around.


Now where do you get this information that tiger would bounce any shot? Even a measly t-34/76 could penetrate a tiger from 500m from the side. A T-34/85 or an su-85 could penetrate the front at 1000m. Now that's not what usually happened since tiger crews always angled their armor at 45 degrees to give them a sort of sloped armor effect. An is-2 and ISU-152 would punch trought tigers armor with ease. Unfortunately the t-34/76 costing 20 fuel is also wrong. The germans made almost the same amount of tanks in 1944 even tho their industries were getting bombed to hell. (Germany made 27000 in 44, soviets made 28000, granted, there were three fronts, but still much of the tanks were directed to the eastern front). If this game simulated reality, then soviets would also get things like su-100, ISU-122 both of which could destroy practically every german tank with ease (even the king tiger considering that the quality of german armour fell drastically in 44-45 because very critical reserves of certain materials were lost. Altho there is still no recorded case of king tigers hull armor getting pierced.

Now for the pak 40 destroying infantry, it makes sense, but in another way, it doesn't. HE shells required considerable space and considering that the PAK 40 is towed in this game, HE rounds were not a priority and the crew could not carry alot of HE rounds. Same with elephant and su-85. Why su-76 doesn't have HE shells for direct fire is beyond me...

It's target weak point and yes, it is needed AND normal for an ANTITANK gun. If Pak 40 will begin to shred infantry, would that be normal? That is the question you have to ask yourself.



It's called incendiary barrage and has nothing unusual in it. A balistic projectile load may be incendiary, nothing out of ordinary. If Mortar HT had ..ummm...let's say... "piercing armor hit" ability and would cut half of your T34 life at every hit, would you like that? Would it be "normal"?

except that a field gun being loaded with a HE explosive round is also completely nothing out of the ordinary, infact, the zis-3 was designed exactly for its ability to destroy enemy infantry, it was designed as a field gun. google zis-2 if you want an anti tank gun. Even if pak 40 could destroy infantry, that would also be realistic, things like the su-85 had HE rounds too you know.