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Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:40 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:25 PMStug life 140 rushing you mean right ? its 215 skiping tier 1 for ost (90 + 25 + 25 +15 + 40 +20) and if im not wrong soviet start with more fuel and if they get all the tier brits still pay more with aec or bof Wut? Stop diging. Your grave is already deep enough. OST: T1 - 80 + 10 T2 - 200 + 20 T3 - 240 + 60 T4 - 200 + 50 Sum - 720 + 140 Where the hell you counted 215? Starting fuel for OST and SU is excatly the same - 20 and if Soviets go for T70 or SU76 they also pay more... Lel. Brilliant argument. Firstly you say tht Churchill is tied to tech, while KV1. Then you say that even then it's not the same becasue SU tech is cheaper. Then you bring lel argument that if Brits go for AEC it's more expensvie. In: Lobby
Thread: [DBP] Guard Rifle Combined Arms Tactics feedback9 Dec 2017, 14:28 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:17 PMAceOfTitanium Because in theory the t-34-85 should have lower armor but a better gun than the kv1. This way the kv1 would be perfect to counter mediums because although it's slow it has better armor and thus would bounce more shots from a medium tank and having the same gun as mediums it would pen them without any problem. On the other hand the t-34-85 is perfect to counter heavier tanks because of it's gun but also because although it has weaker armor it would have the speed to flank heavy tanks and do some real damage. How do you want to counter mediums if half of your shots bounces? If anything, it can keep axis mediums at bay. But still, it's just true for Ostwind and OST Pz 4. Stug and OKW Pz 4 will deal with it any day. Not to mention that it can be easily circled to death by OST Pz4. T35/85 is better option than KV1 in every damn time. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:09 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:02 PMStug life like the ost tier 4 right ? come on you know what i ninted is fuel cost not the tier it self soviet tier 4 is just other faction tier 3 and you know that Get your facts staight. You said that Churchill is T4 while KV1 is not. Now time for funny fact: You need 660 MP + 195 fuel to unlock Churchill You need 640 MP + 195 fuel to unlock KV1 Funny like fuel cost for Churchill and KV1 is excatly the same, aye? Wanna more? Ostheer T4 (afaik) costs 720 MP + 140 fuel In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 13:59 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 13:54 PMStug life churchil is tier 4 kv 1 is not KV1 is now tied to tech (T4) In: Lobby
Thread: [DBP] Guard Rifle Combined Arms Tactics feedback9 Dec 2017, 12:45 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 12:03 PMAceOfTitanium The kv1 as well as the churchill should be seen as heavy tanks (not because of the gun but the armor) and with that said the sweet spot for the kv1 is to counter medium tanks but be countered by 'heavier' tanks like panthers. This way players would have more reasons to tech to tier 4 and get a panther out. One could say that the churchill is a bit too good for it's price tho. So why would I pick KV1 for this, if I can pick better T34/85? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [DBP] Tank Hunter feedback thread9 Dec 2017, 12:44 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 11:44 AMAceOfTitanium I dont think so, with the t-34-85 tank the commander is still relevant to 1v1's otherwise no one would choose this commander. Having conscripts with assault AT grenades, tank detection, tank repair and a tank AT bombing run isnt enough AT dedicated abilities? AT nades - all right, they are good for this doctrine. Tank detection - ok, it also suits But tank repairs and bombing run? What I'm going to repair? This crap T34/76 which will "hunt" axis tanks? As for bombing runs, I guess you know very well how they are situational opposite to loiters. I still don't feel this doctrine as a AT doctrine. I mean, I'm hunting Panthers and Tigers with PTRSes and T34/76? Good luck. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 09:11 AM It sounds better but still doesn't change the fact that KV1 has no purpose and it's most indistinct tank in game. To give it some purpose I'd add smoke ability or something else to support advancing infantry because it's still way worst than Churchill while being doctrinal and cost only 15F less. In: Lobby
Thread: [DBP] Recon Doctrine feedback thread9 Dec 2017, 08:48 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 05:14 AMHon3ynuts The Greyhound has a lot of impact for a 280 mp 60 fuel unit. With its ability to quickly amass kills, It can quickly pay for itself. It may be underpriced considering it certainly compares if not exceeds the performance of the t70, stuart, luchs. Got 4 built vs me in a relatively short game. In a seperate game at 11 minutes, the greyhound dove my base and basically killed everything, despite several squads with panzerfaust and an AT gun, which was rendered ineffective by the greyhounds manueverability. 3:46:00 in video Not that i played particularly well ect, but the unit is reaaaaaally good 3:35:20 for casts. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/207894386 Sorry, but it's not Greyhound. You were just caught off the guard You could easily switch rounds for HMG and deal with that Greyhound in seconds In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [DBP] Guard Rifle Combined Arms Tactics feedback9 Dec 2017, 08:41 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2017, 16:36 PM\|GB\| The Hooligan486 Kv1: It's quite expensive, but it's also quite good. I like it that it's behind teching now and it's still a good tank. But 145? While you could also make almost 2 t34? On the other hand it still is pretty good. Probably leave it at 145, bcs othwerise it becomes to powerfull. Even tho you gotta tech up for it. I still think it's worth it to go for kv1, if you have double zis for example it's a great combination to go for a kv1. Can't agree with this. KV1 is not spammable medium like T34/76, Cromwell or Sherman. It's not heavy hitting medium like E8 or T34/85. It's not even damage sponde like Churchill, nor has support abilities for infantry like smoke. Not to mention that it's just 70MP and 15F cheaper than Churchill which is superior in almost every aspect and it's non-doc. Personaly I can't think of any other tank in the game that would be so, so pointless, with no purpose. KV's price should be raised a bit and then it should be buffed to somewhere areound Churchill's level of sponge damage or leave it as it is, but give it some support abilities. Otherwise there is no point of using it. Most indistinct tank in game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [DBP] Tank Hunter feedback thread9 Dec 2017, 02:36 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2017, 21:25 PMRetief Plenty of real life hunting basically boils down to finding a hiding spot and waiting for game to walk into your sights. Oh yes, that's why I can afford to leave my T34/76 hiding for X mins waiting for this one opportunity while my cons will bleed my whole MP vs vetted axis infantry and tanks Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2017, 22:34 PMAceOfTitanium Well it's also hard to hunt tanks with an ISU and that's why I think the t-34-85 is perfect for this commander, it's a mobile tank with a very capable gun and having the repairs and armored vehicle detection makes for the perfect hunting armor commander Imo. T34/85 is a general unit while this doctrine would need something AT dedicated. In: COH2 Balance