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PPS-43 submachine gun
SG-43 Goryunov machine gun
100mm Model 1944 BS-3 anti tank gun
KV-85
KV-1S
SU-100
SU-122
ISU-122
I had a dream. A dream where Relic released specialized late-war commander...  |
This is rubbish. Statistics said otherwise.
Stats show that there were better than axis but not because they were OP.
It was a fault of OKW being UP. |
If you read my posts you noticed that I talk about vehicles that come out as your first unit. Do you need snares for a Kübel? Yet a M3 in your base can wipe squads.
Just like Luchs can wipe squads in base since Brits don't have snares, useful handheld AT or T0 AT Gun. Luchs is more deadly against Brits than M3 agasint OKW.
As for the Qbix, let's just move along. I mean, if someone thinks that it's ok to have nades and schrecks withoit side-upgrades, free medics, free repairs, free cut off protection, free AA, non-doc heavy tank without any disadvantages (reduced income) while oter factions have to pay for such things, well, there is not much to talk about. |
If it would be enough, yes. But with a sky full of planes not even that best AA unit it's enough protection.
Further, OKW, as I said before, cannot retaliate with the same weapons, so if you force an OKW player to build the AA HT he can't force you to build an AA vehicle because he has no viable air strikes.
But Ostheer can force you to make AA units quite easily and fill sky with JU strafes. Yet allies do not have free AA.
It's not that someone forces you. It's that you nullify enemy's ability.
@Qbix, before the last patch, OKW did not have 100% income, therefore it was quite understandable that they couldn't have fuel based upgrades. Now with 100% things are different.
@Acht Brits also don't have a snare  |
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Free medics, free repairs, free AA and AI flak, flak bases, no upgrades for schrecks, nades, non doc heavy tank, cheapest teching.
You realize how OP it sounds? |
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And OKW has the best AA unit. It's called 251/17. That's the unit to counter planes. Not Schwerer. That's the counter play.
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Just lol or not lol, give OKW let's say... 2 abilities like these for instance: Henshell AT attack, and 50 kilo stuka dive bomb. And you can remove the AA from T4 and transform the base AAs in bunkers.
What air abilities have to do with AA?
It's like saying that USF and SU need heavy At gun because they don't have non doc heavy tank.
Still waiting for explanation how supply drop is a skill plane.
Look for the point of this thread cause you are miles away from it. |
Well, OKW doesn't have viable air attack abilities, the existing ones are not even close from allied abilities in this area, especially USF and UKF. So I think their AA capabilities must be better than ostheer's. And they are.
Isn't this how it's supposed to be? Especialy when you have on the field exposed trucks.
Allied off maps abilities can be overhelming, so proper counters should exist. You want skillplanes running wild just because they cost 200 amo?
And if in 4v4 (good thing that we don't have 5v5, 6v6, 10v10, etc) these "free" AAs are so effective, if they are nerfed, how they will perform in 2v2s? Or 1v1s? The number of planes is the same, you know.
Furthermore, there is a question of proportions. If there are 3 Shwerers on the field, and one of the players use a skillplane attack ability, it's quite obvious that alote of planes will fall and this will diminish your air attack power. But if 3 players are using the skillplane ability in the same time, what would be the impact? You won't even notice that there are 3 Schwerer on the field.
I don't think the problem is real.
Just lol.
Didn't know that supply drop is a skill plane.
OKW has better AA abilities, 251/17 is best AA unit.
So, P47 can be shot down for free because skill plane, but JU needs Quad or AA HT because allies?
How they will perform in 2v2?lol. That's the point. They can't perform at all against planes. There is not a single reason why OKW should have free AA. |
The base guns can not shoot down planes.
Yes, they can.
Not very often but they can, like 1-2/10 |
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It's simple.
I'm perfectly fine with planes being brought down by Ostwind or 251/17. It's fine.
Yet Schwerer and base flaks are really annoying.
In team games Lend-Lease and Industry are just pointless becasue of 2-4 Schweres. Not to mention other air abilities.
This needs to go away.
I ran a test agasint 2 Schwerers.
5 planes out of 11 were brought down.
Free schrecks, free nades, cheapest tech and free AA? That's way to much.
Sooting down planes shout be a reword for investing in Ostwind, 251/17, AA HT or Quad. But shooting down planes for free is just too much.
Just had I game where 2 planes were shot down yet there was no AA unit. I wasted 200 ammo for nothing and my 200ammo were countered for free.
Flak bases ans Schwerer should lose AA abilities.
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