This assumes the Shreks and Rackten penetrate (they normally won't at max range), and that they don't die to the Churchill's support or it's satchel charges.
Also "You don't need T4" --> "StG Obers" ???, And the detection radius for IR StG's is 10 (or 15 Relic has changed it once or twice) not 25.
When playing OKW this patch it's mandatory to go for JPIV for a reason you know.
I noticed you were gone for a few days,and returned just to argue with me,im flattered,and
totally surprised.
What I meant by YOU DONT NEED T4 is if you lose your T4 or CANT afford it for some amazing reason,you know since brit early game is absoulute fucking garbage even vs garbage okw,
you can still get this panther without teching costs of T4. That is all im saying.
Heavy medtruck(LEIGS)>Jp4 dat u need for centaur that will receive nurf anyway>play around, plant mines, take a shit beat your dick wahtever > 10 CPs>Command panther>then go t4 and handle commandos with stg obers.
This is what ive done in 2v2+ vs brits,since theyre allegedly so OP in those modes. the only trouble ive run into,is their late game arty abilities ON TOP of these tanks at times,or shit teammates that whine and complain OP instead of fucking playing the game and realizing blatant weaknesses.
About the STG OBERS. You dont have to get them immediately. You can get them when T4 is up eventually. Getting them early is a huge advantage over brits if you can get T4 up early enough Getting early t4 up is not impossible in 2v2+ vs piss weak brit early game. Regarding Teammate faction choices affecting that balance,well that strongly depends on the play of your own teammates.
Once you get them,commandos cannot close or ambush these STG obers using camoflauge because of the detection radius THAT DOES exist. Which means the STG obers will either mow them down on approach(becuz dat mid range dps) forcing a retreat, or cause a wipe on the commandos if htey decide to continue closing(dat mid range and close range dps) 80% of the time. The difference between 15-25 range is the size of a midgets dick,even if my files are somehow out of date. Please stop missing the point,derailing, and arguing about that for no reason. It was just an oberservation.
And the Rakten/shreks not penetrating is pure whine..sorry. Yes it wont penetratr 10000% of the time like Axis AT tends to do vs every other allied tank EXCEPT the is series but there is still a good chance it will penetrate. When AT is Massed,it doesnt matter. Damage will be inflicted. With the mark vehicle buff, Shreks turn into tank guns,Panthers/Jp4s/ whatver AT is available turns into fucking jacksons with hvap. FOR 35 munitions and no veterancy requirement,and self spotting. It literally doesnt get any easier to counter a heavy. I wish a jackson could self spot with 800 hp and a fuck ton of front armor. I strongly believe the command panther is the absoulute best tonk you could get vs brits. Its even better vs the comet.
As ostheer,Idk,get stugs with scopes or something,i heard theyre pretty good.
Again,Im not referencing 1v1, where these tactics may be questionable, im referencing 2v2+. And this is what ive observed and perfomed during actual gameplay over the past weeks before commenting on this. I purposefully tried out my suggestions vs decent ppl before posting just any bs here.
This game is seriously unbalanced and bugged to hell all across the board right now,including the crutch centaur that allows you to make it to reliably churchills in the first place,and yes,OKW and axis in general needs some fucking
help.
the churchill needs an armor nerf and a 20-40 fuel cost increase(Even though anvil just got fucking expensive,I guess thats not enough of a nerf) and shreks and raketens and panthers and tigers and mines and whatever can always penetrate them, Because axis AT not penetrating is a crime against humanity apparently,im just gonna settle with you on that.
But if this tank doesnt have high HP or armor,OR SPEED,or a cannon that packs a punch in combination with one of the other options I just mentioned, like the comet does,its completely useless late game with the amount of anti tank DPS axis can dish out. Argubly in all modes,not just team games. Thats just my honest opinion on the churchill.