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Thread: US late game12 Jul 2014, 00:07 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2014, 23:57 PMCieZ M36 Jacksons are a 60 range, highly mobile, turreted tank destroyer that do 240 damage per shot (Jp4, Su85 only do 160). It out-ranges everything OKW have except for the Jagdtiger/Jp4 (but honestly you'll never be able to field a JT in a legit 1v1). It out-DPS's the Jp4 by a lot, and can self repair meaning you can easily "attrition" it off the field. They're also in the same tier as the normal Sherman and the M8A1, making them a lot more viable to field as compared to Su85s (which are utter trash in 1v1) and Panthers (too expensive to get to in 1v1). I feel like I'm rambling, maybe putting it in list form will be better. The M36 Jackson has 60 range. #Winning It has a turret. It does 240 damage per shot. It is more mobile than any other TD (maybe the Panther is slightly more mobile? But we already know Panthers are terrible for their cost.) It is located in a great place in terms of tech (unlike the SU85 and the Panther). It can repair itself. I just don't see how you can lose M36 Jacksons to anything other than a JT or Elefant - which never show up in 1v1s. Pak43 would be a big issue I guess (I do love me some PaK43s). You can out maneuver schrecks and AT guns, you out-range the P4, Stug, Ostwind, Puma, KT, Tiger, Panther, Bruumbar. They're super mobile, unflankable tank killing machines that self repair and throw out 240 damage per shot... not really sure what else you could want from your TD. The health is somewhat irrelevant because you have so much mobility and repair power. - The repairing is a nice bonus, but other than that I don't find them fast, at least not faster than a sherman. Not sure on this matter though. - The 60 range may not always be used though, like in city maps. Every countershot is very dangerous for the Jackson. Aren't panzershrecks quite good against them? The Jackson doesn't have an answer to that and dies in 4 panzershreck shots. - A bit off-topic, but IIRC the Jackson has a building time of 90 SECONDS. Why is this? (sherman and panther have 60, only KT has 90 IIRC) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: US late game11 Jul 2014, 23:57 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2014, 23:10 PMOZtheWiZARD Because they are insanely fast and punch massive amount of damage. Used by a player who knows what he's doing they are able to go in - take a shoot - and go out before you will be able to react and nothing is able to keep up with them except for combat blitz Panther. But I don't really find them fast. I'd say they're about the same speed as Sherman. Good, but not that that fast. I agree about the nice damage (240 according to stats), but I'd say its terrible survivability makes up for that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: US late game11 Jul 2014, 23:04 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2014, 22:42 PMCieZ Shermans are good. M8A1s are good, M36 Jacksons are god-tier overpowered. Vet 3 Rifles with 2x BAR sweep the floor with everything except highly vetted OKW infantry. Rifles with M1919A6 are actually 100% unbeatable by any infantry in the game when they're in defensive stance. M1919A6 Paratroopers can go toe to toe with anything outside of Vet 5 Obers. Not to mention having the best HMG in the game and a 70 range AT gun. USF can exceed 100 population with ease (although this is somewhat of an exploit imo so I wouldn't recommend using it). They have some of the best off-maps in the game, the best forward reinforce mechanic (can move it anywhere you want at any time). Really not sure what the problem is... OKW probably has a slight edge in the very late game but getting there is VERY difficult. USF has major advantages in the early/mid game and they're still amazingly strong in the late game. - I'm not sure why you'd think Jacksons are OP. They have 480 HEALTH and are three-shotted by almost everything that ressembles AT (the Jagdtiger does it in two shots, couple that with its 85 range ...) - Doesn't the 70 range AT gun only exists after vetting up? - and defensive stance require being out of combat. - exploits obviously should be fixed, so this can't count as balance argument. - The US player does not have sufficient strong late game AT imo. We have an acceptable AT gun (better than the ZiS gun) but then OKW has better stock tanks than the Wehrmacht did. Bazookas do **** against tanks on their own and the Jackson is very, very squishy. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: opel blitz vet23 Nov 2013, 19:11 PM since you can buy vet, you can also vet an opel, if i recall correctly. Does it have any bonuses or is it just to see those shiny stars above the car? In: COH2 Gameplay