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I think all of them just got doubled, and you win these points twice faster, so nothing has changed yet.

I suppose that some 0 CP abilities will be changed to 1 CP.

Stugs are a good counter for T3 soviet units. I don't know why I don't see more ingame.

Greeb: casual games are not necessarily aimed at the short term. That's just the mainstream perception.

Angry Birds is as casual as they come, and it is every IP's wish. Candy Crush, Peggle, Plants vs Zombies, Snake, etc. All casual and very succesful games through the span of several years. You don't need to be at the top of gross profits to be a VERY successful business (Minecraft is an example).

Truth is there are many, many things that make up a good game. You don't need to be a competitive game to last through the years, but like Inverse stated, it seems to be the RTS's tendency.

The strategy genre (in general) doesn't need to be competitive to be successful (Civ V), but in all honesty, in the case of CoH, it is what kept Gamereplays alive and it was members of the competitive community that started CoH2.org. It is only logical that those players would want CoH2 to be competitive.

Is it bad if CoH2 remains tailored to casuals? No, it isn't, if people keep enjoying it. However, you can't expect the competitive community to stick around, either.

I think otherwise.
Almost all casual games have a short life span. The very Zynga, developers of farmville and a lot of those type of games, is in a dire situation. Also, those games have their target in phones and tablets. Console and PC games follow another rules, due mainly because people don't play them while taking a dump or waiting the next bus.

Games as Candycrush are like teenager pop-stars. They make a lot of money and disappear the next year.
Competitive games, instead, are like old rock stars. They still do music in his death bed.

Casual games survive releasing a new iteration of the game each year, like CoD, Battlefield, FIFA, etc. Because the game itself is boring and lack a catchy gameplay, so developers have to introduce novelties quickly. CoH2 is falling in that mechanic, were the playerbase only appears whenever a new patch comes, and disappear again a week after.

Competitive games like CS or Starcraft release a new game only when the game is becoming technologically obsolete. Seriously, I think Valve is really great doing that, making money selling hats and stuff while the competitive aspect of the game is untouched.

The only right step I've seen in Relic approach is Steamworkshop.
Any good game without a huge playerbase really need mods and customizing tools. CoH1 success was that the game was great, but also that it had plenty of mods and game modes to appeal a great variety of public.

BTW, I don't think minecraft is a casual game. On the contrary, I think is the opposite, or at least started as the opposite.

I don't understand why the damage is doubled.

Just a pinpoint mortar shell is good enough, imo.

Saying competitive = success, casual = failure is a pretty gross generalization IMO. However, when you narrow your scope to predominantly multiplayer games outside the FPS and MMO genres, there's a pretty strong correlation between success and competition. CoH falls into that category, being a largely multiplayer-focused RTS.

I wasn't trying to talk about fail/success.
Actually, I intended to say that probably the casual game gave more money, most of it in the short-term.
But the other one, the competitive, is the game that builds great IPs and big communities and finally makes profit in the long-term and translate that success to other same developer's games.

Suffocating your customers with DLCs that shatter competitive multiplayer games, independently of the sales, will affect negatively to future titles.
I think in english is called to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

everything there is just made up assumptions based on no real facts or evidence.

Yes, they're assumptions. Nobody has the "success' recipe" for a game, but as Inverse explained with better words than mine, most successful competitive games (RTS, Fighting games,...) tend to take care of these details.

For example, Capcom's "Tekken vs Street Fighter" was a failure because it wasn't competitive, in contrast to others of their games.