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Actually I like the idea. Bigger area effects but lower damage profiles would reduce the god damn squad wipes.

The suppression - if not exaggerated, so that the suppression lasts not as much as that from an mg - could really compensate for the squad wipe ability.

On the other hand the arty should still remain its oneshot ability in the center of the explosion. Wouldnt just be really fun to watch an artillery shell landing on a soldier without killing him


On the other hand: I didnt feel the artillery needed MUCH of a change atm. Maybe a faster ROE would help them become a little more used in 1v1 but the arti was nothing I was too concerned about.

Still theres allways room for discussion=)

greetz

Edit:

Abdul

Your point c was sth I very much would like to see.
The main point why artillery is underused is because it can be oneshotted. At least in 2v2 the probality that the enemy has drop weapons is very high. That combined with spy planes is a sure death for any arti at the moment.

When rebalancing the Maxim please take a big look at how its suppression performs against blobs.

Please test its suppression against blobbed up units.

An MG is meant to be an area denial weapon (as even stated in your games tutorial) that doesnt necessary do big amounts of damage.


Right now the Maxim lacks the area suppression but on the other hand deals huge amount of damage and can set up faster but has a lower cone. Its 6 men squad also makes it more resistant to explosive weapons.


But even with micro it cannot successfull suppress blobs running at it. It will only suppress a small amount of the squads and the other squads will rush over it.


Also please keep in mind that rifle nades are the death sentence for Maxim crews. A solution to this would be to disallow rifle nades beeing fired when the squad is suppressd (not pinned). Even in a realistic manner this would make sense since the guy firing its rifle nade usually stands up and puts its rifle on the ground. But jeah realism is not what we are aiming at here so thats just a nice side note




What I personally would like the Maxim to become is sth like the following. And this is only to give some feedback and add to the discussion so no need for flaming

An MG that can still suppress blobs effectively, isnt hardcountered by rifle nades, doesnt overperform in the damage section and stands off from the MG 42 by its smaller arc, lower set up time, but shorter duration of suppression.
The problem of the durability against explosives could be solved by letting two guys of the squad stand closer to each other so the overall squad gets affected by mortar shells equivalent to the MG 42.


This would mean:

Give the Maxim a bigger area suppression BUT a smaller duration of the suppresion and less damage.
Keep the current firearc and set up time since its allready been increased.

-- This would mean the Maxim could still be used more aggressively than the MG42 due to its faster set up time but is not as capable as suppressing flanked squads by repositioning since the first suppressed squads will be unsuppressed faster.
Also it would not be able to attack on its own since the damage output would be to small to harm a squad before backup arrives.

On the other hand it would still serve as an areal denial weapon meant to punish blobs - just like MGs are meant to be.

The MG42 would have the advantage of having longer and a bit bigger area suppression and would serve a little better as a defensive unit but would lack the ability to support attacks FAST because of its slower set up time --

Stopping grenadiers from firing rifle nades while suppressed AND letting the 6 soldiers of the Maxim stand closer together in groups of two would both allow the Maxim to be more vulnerable to explosives and still keep the rifle nade ability from beeing sincere overpowered.

The higher damage output on german squads still means the small arms damage per second agaisnt the Maxim would be balanced between the factions.


Thats my two cents - theres surely room for discussion.

Best regards!

You posted it and added a poll. You endorsed it and think it's a legitimate test. Thanks for bringing this cancerous piece of shit video that will undoubtedly be regurgitated by morons for months to come down upon us.

This...is called toxic behavior.

I agreed with you completely up until you said that a single MG would stop them in their tracks. I'd have to check to see if I still have the replays but last night I was playing a 2v2, the enemy blobbed a couple volks, sturmpios and a panzerfusiler together and charged at my MG on moscow. It was a vet 2 Maxim. I mean charged at it, like directly in the cone of fire. My MG was also in yellow cover. I think the first two squads got pinned and that was it of the 4-5. The rest just stood in the cone of fire and shot at my MG until I had to retreat.

Right now, blobbing is terrible. As OKW just throw a couple obersoldaten together with fallshrims and volks and you do and insane amount of damage before you even get CLOSE to the enemy.

I've dealt with blobs it's just not the easiest thing to do. Especially if you lose a squad or two in the process. MG teams are necessary now apparently. So is some form of indirect fire.

USF Mortar Halftrack is underused, has an incediary ability which is useful.

This is a standard game nowadays. No flanks or anything, just run at them with BARs and Zooks.

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So true! Maxims dont counter blobs at the moment. You can run straight into the Maxim with blobs.
I agree that the Maxim might get to strong if it keeps its damage output and its high squad size combined iwth higher area supression but an MG that cannot suppress blobs is basically not doing its job!

I still think that this is an issue! At least in 2v2 games and higher where the control of massed forces is essential.


On a side note: I like the idea of a accuracy multiplier for more than 3 squads blobbed in a close proximity.

Best regards

How does the suppression get calculated in Coh2?

Especially the area supression would be very interesting to know.

For example the Mg42 seems to have a far superior area supression while the Maxim often takes ages to even suppress a second squad next to the first one.

How does this get calculated?

Thanks guys!