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Thread: Omega's Japanese Faction10 May 2014, 19:29 PM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2014, 19:13 PMBartonPL Japan never really had the need to have heavy tanks because what for? Exactly.But in CoH2 there are masses of heavy tanks. 4vs4 maps are full of ISU-152s and IS-2s.If they would make japaneses tanks a Little bit realistic then ISU-152 or IS-2s would shred the japanese tanks with 1 shot to pieces.And the japanese infantry that attack the ISU-152 with mines or something would also get insta wipe killed by the big heavys.So what could a japanese faction do?Nothing. I would love to see Japan as a faction.....if they had cool tanks and many modern weapons......but they didn t had all this.All the cool stuff Japan had were in the navy and the aircrafts.But CoH2 is not about that. Where is the Logical point in adding such a faction?A japanese faction would be just a downgrade axis faction with weak infantry weapons, weak tanks, and weak arty.Where is the Point to choosing a faction that has everything that Germany has but only much , much weaker?They have also no cool "WOW there is a Tiger/ISU-152 Units" that all other factions have.There are just no cool "WOW" units. Relic will have to ask themselfes These questions and its hard to find an rational answer to them to make them spend Money to design such a faction.The question for relic is "Who wants to Play a faction that have no real exciting and impressive Units like the other factions have? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Omega's Japanese Faction10 May 2014, 19:04 PM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2014, 17:14 PMPorygon Tanks isn't everything, if Relic can really make the map Iwo jima and Okinawa would super favour IJA. Ambushing and stealth is their strength. Your trash talk is like Generals GLA with shitty tanks, no airforce cannot win a damn game. To my Trash talk: Even the game dirctor from CoH2 Quinn Duffy is sceptic about Japan as a faction here is an interview with him: http://onehitpixel.com/2012/10/09/company-of-heroes-2-principle-designer-on-capturing-the-eastern-front/38413 Dave: The Pacific? Yeah, and also North Africa. We could do any front in war. The Pacific could be quite a challenging one because of the island campaigns. There was a real disparity in that conflict. The United States beat Japan with ten percent of their resources. Europe was the main war for them at the time, so it was a very asymmetric conflict because Japan just didn’t have the industrial might. Dave: That could tie in with the series quite well from the sounds of things. The army design could be very interesting. The Japanese army had no tanks, but they had guys with mines on the end of sticks – I read this once in one of the books I’ve read on the subject. The average American soldier had 400 pounds of equipment and support, ammunition, fuel, etc; and the average Japanese soldier had 2 pounds. Such a difference in the two forces and it would be interesting to explore for sure… but that’s no confirmation that we’re doing it! You guys can see here that relic sees the same Problems like i do.They doesn t Sound very excited about adding Japan to the game. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Omega's Japanese Faction10 May 2014, 19:01 PM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2014, 17:43 PMBasilone Using realism as a means of CoH hypothetical comparisons is futile. T34 had amazing armor but they rarely deflect anything harder hitting than Ostwind flak in CoH2. T-34 had great armour against short barreled stug and P4 thats all.Or what you think is the reason why more then 40000 T-34s were destroyed in the war by Germany? Japan killed tanks just fine, they just relied more on mines (sometimes carried by suicide bombers) and direct fire artillery. Also they mainly dealt with light-medium tanks, not very much heavy tank combat in the Pacific. http://ww2db.com/vehicle_spec.php?q=180 In the Pacific War, where tank battles were few and far in-between, the M4 Sherman tanks easily out-classed their Japanese counterparts. Unlike their North African and European counterparts, the Sherman tanks deployed to the Pacific often used high explosive rounds instead of armor piercing rounds; the decision was made due to the reason that the Japanese tanks were thinly-armored, and armor piercing rounds often went through the tank without detonating the explosives. The armor piercing rounds, though, remained effective against defensive fortifications. I don t know if you ever Play CoH2 multiplayer but there are definately heavy tanks in the game not only light tanks. So you think a faction thats only weapon is to mine the whole map to do somehing against enemy tanks would be a lot of fun to Play? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Omega's Japanese Faction10 May 2014, 14:38 PM I m sorry to destroy all your dreams. but many People here complaining about weak soviet tanks.....well then just wait untill you see japanese tanks.Soviet tanks and equippment is godlike compared to Japans. Most japanese tanks ar on par with the soviet T-70 light tank.How should Japan defeat IS-2, ISU-152 or Pershing? Japan would be cool but sorry they have no interesting stuff.It would be just boring compared to the other factions. A japanese faction would be a axis faction with weak and outdated infantry weapons and even much weaker tanks.That doesn t Sound like fun to me. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Omega's Japanese Faction10 May 2014, 14:24 PM Japan doesn t fit in CoH2. They have no interesting tanks or vehicles. Japans tanks were outdated and couldn t fight against sherman tanks during the Island campaigns.Japan lacks generally in AT Options.Tanks like a Pershing, IS-2 or KV-8 would be unstoppable. Type 3 Chi-Nu, Type 1 Ho-Ni I ,Type 3 Ho-Ni III never saw any combat in WW2. Japan never developed its tanks. I don t know why so many People are fascinated with a japanese faction in CoH2. Compared to the other factions in WW2(Germany, Soviets, USA, Britain) Japan would be the most boring faction out of all.They have only weak light tanks and no "WOW-Cool-Tanks" like the other faction.I don t know why should i choose a faction with boring and weak tanks in CoH2? To Japans euquippment: Even european WW I armys had a better and more modern equippment then Japan in WW II.Japan has focused everything in there Navy in Airforce the IJA land army were just badly outdated compared to the USA. It seems like some People want to make a science-fiction japanese army with tanks that were never used or existed only on paper. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Western Armies - Tiers and Units?10 May 2014, 08:59 AM Jump back to quoted post9 May 2014, 23:47 PMrappit German OKW faction: A few Units apart from Jagdtiger and Sturmtiger we already saw in the Trailer: -King Tiger - Henschel -Jagdpanther -Jagdpanzer IV/70 -Hetzer -Marder III -Panzer III -Hummel -Knights cross holders -Stormtroopers -Volksgrenadiers -Gebirgsjaegers -Strosstruppen -V1 rocket -Fallschirmjaegers -Hauptsturmfuehrer -210mm Nebelwerfer -Flak 88 -210mm Morser 18 Heavy Howitzer -StuH 42 -Wirbelwind Flak Panzer -Goliath US Army -M26 Pershing -Sherman Jumbo -Sherman crocodile -Different Versions of the Shermans -M 18 Hellcat -M10 Wolverine Tank destroyer -M36 "Jackson" Tank-Hunter -M3 Lee -Calliope -Sherman 105 howitzer -Rangers -Ranger Captain -M5 L/50 76mm Anti-Tank Gun -155 mm Long Tom arty -Riflemen -Anti-Tank Team -Airborne Rangers -MG-Jeep -Greyhound That's quite the list, and I would like to see all those units, but I doubt we will, at least right away because a lot of them overlap. For example,the American faction simply doesn't need 3 tank destroyers and that's way too much infantry for the OKW. That being said, we may see many of these units eventually in doctrines, if not at the expansion's release. I'm personally hoping for a Jadgpanther for OST and an SU-100 for the Russians in some upcoming doctrine release. Also, it's important to note that relic will probably be unwilling to copy the units from vCOH. I'm predicting that the wolverine will be replaced by the Jackson or Hellcat and the M8 will be replaced by some light armor, just to make it seem newer. I m just saying it would be better to add all These new Units to OKW then giving them P4s and Panthers as a normal core units again. The OKW could be a faction thats based on old lighter tanks(Panzer II & III) and tank destroyers without a turret(Hetzer, Jagdpanzer IV/70, Marder III) for early and mid game and then heavy call ins as late game Units(Jagdtiger, King Tiger, Sturmtiger) together with elite infantry(Knights cross holders, stormtroopers). The USA will maybe have strong aircraft call in abilitys and i would like to see the M36 Jackson TD with its powerfull 90mm AT gun.And they definately Need the M26 Pershing to handle the OKWs big cats. US infantry Needs Bazookas and that sticky bomb. In: Lobby
Thread: Western Armies - Tiers and Units?9 May 2014, 22:23 PM Jump back to quoted post9 May 2014, 22:12 PMBeltFedWombat rappit were the PzIVs in the video simply the CoH2 Ostheer vehicles? Or am I imagining PzIVs? I hope and i am sure that OKW will not have Panzer 4s or Panthers. OKW should not be a mirrored Ostheer with the same Units.There are enough unused tanks and Units for OKW left so they don t Need to have ostheer Units like P4 or Panther. Units i like to see: German OKW faction: A few Units apart from Jagdtiger and Sturmtiger we already saw in the Trailer: -King Tiger - Henschel -Jagdpanther -Jagdpanzer IV/70 -Hetzer -Marder III -Panzer III -Hummel -Knights cross holders -Stormtroopers -Volksgrenadiers -Gebirgsjaegers -Strosstruppen -V1 rocket -Fallschirmjaegers -Hauptsturmfuehrer -210mm Nebelwerfer -Flak 88 -210mm Morser 18 Heavy Howitzer -StuH 42 -Wirbelwind Flak Panzer -Goliath US Army -M26 Pershing -Sherman Jumbo -Sherman crocodile -Different Versions of the Shermans -M 18 Hellcat -M10 Wolverine Tank destroyer -M36 "Jackson" Tank-Hunter -M3 Lee -Calliope -Sherman 105 howitzer -Rangers -Ranger Captain -M5 L/50 76mm Anti-Tank Gun -155 mm Long Tom arty -Riflemen -Anti-Tank Team -Airborne Rangers -MG-Jeep -Greyhound In: Lobby
Thread: Western Armies - Tiers and Units?9 May 2014, 20:15 PM Jump back to quoted post9 May 2014, 18:51 PMvan Voort Well the pre-order video shows (in order) American Airborne Something that looks that a Panzer II or maybe a PIII Kubelwagen Air to Ground Rockets Sturm Tiger ++++++++++++ Jagdtiger was also in the Video. In: Lobby
Thread: Western Armies - Tiers and Units?9 May 2014, 18:22 PM According to this: http://blogs.companyofheroes.com/2014/05/01/help-us-test-company-of-heroes-2-the-western-front-armies/ To be clear this is unfinished Alpha software, and not the polished and completed game that we will be releasing this summer. There will be parts of the game that are still a work-in-progress, and you may experience more bugs and crashes than when playing fully completed software. The game is completely unfinished atm. I have the bad Feeling that the "Western front armies" comming out on june 24 will be a rushed and completely unfinished game full of bugs and imbalances.I can t imagine how they should finish this game in such a short time left until release. The Alpha of this game starts now and ist not even 2 months left until release to Balance everything. In: Lobby
Thread: Congratulations on Victory Day 9 May 2014, 13:58 PM Jump back to quoted post9 May 2014, 13:32 PMPhy This topic was ok till some ignorant started saying fascism=comunism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes Mass killings under Communist Regimes: Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 Million. 85-100 millions death wow thats more then Hitler killed.Congrats. In: Lobby