Profile of elchino7

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Nice first post.

I did see someone make a Blizzard comparison earlier, but it's a laughable one. Blizzard would never constantly redesign their factions and break abilities, nor make so many schoolboy errors with regards to basic localization and syntax. There used to be (andI assume still is) a running joke about CoH2 being designed as an e-sport, but there simply isn't the basis there for any kind of strict high-level competitive play. No serious RTS continuously redesigns factions/civs or core mechanics and expects the tournament crowd to take the game seriously.

Press X to doubt.

Let's ignore that Blizzard still actually develops and has devs working on their RTS titles.

SC2:
-I guess we are gonna forget that each DLC basically reworked each faction by introducing and removing units from their roster. Same with tech upgrades.
-Broodlord infestor meta. Archon toilet deathbball of doom. Bio only. I just had to mention it cause game back then and now are completely different beasts.
-Worker starter from 6 vs 12 made for completely different game.
-They constantly remove, introduce and rework spellcasters.
-2013 map design n meta =/= 2020 map design, mechanics and meta.

WC3:
-Let's remove the whole Reforged fiasco out of the equation and just focus on game mechanics.
-WC3 RoC from what i saw and post expansion are completely different games.
-Note: I'm sure someone like Tightrope could give a deeper and more detailed answer on this subject cause im fairly new (couple of years) following the scene (no idea about W3 RoC)
-From what little i know, Orc was "recently" reworked (moving units from tech structures), Necromancers (spellcaster unit) was reworked, Undead was given a healing item in their shop (they do not had one).
-"Viability" of factions constantly change, same with heroes (both their own faction or neutral tavern ones).
-Some people complain about the removal of Blizzard but the maps with the mechanic removed are still playable. Now think about how limited the type of maps on WC3 are when you can't use half of the settings because in 18 years you couldn't bother in balancing the mercs camps and items they drop.

AoE2:
Let's ignore the pseudo fiasco which was the steam version of AoE2 HD. There's a reason still use Voobly.

-In the same vein as WC3 RE breaking features that were working for vanilla WC3, same can be said for AoE2 DE. At least what i hear from biggest caster. It's still beyond better than what WC3 RE is though.
-While the core gameplay is rigid, it just means that smaller changes have bigger effects. Introduction of Meso civs, African, Slavs, Indian/SE asian, etc.
-https://www.ageofempires.com/support/aoe2/aoe2-issues/


Anything else is not worth comparing. Ex Westwood Grey goo or what is left of the C&C ip, even with the recent remaster. The fathers of the Supreme Commander with Planetary Annihilation. I think for the rest is a list of endless niche RTS. Cossacks, Rise, Empire earth, etc.

1- The increase in manpower cost of caches has already worsened the game balance, especially against early rushes and harassment. What's the alternative? First munitions and fuel cache per player down to 200 manpower?

3- What do you mean? Penals used to have flamethrower prior to a certain patch. I only asked for it to be restricted in late game, not early game. What's next? Remove AT rifle upgrades as well and leave them with only one weapon slot allowed?

4- At least panzerchreck upgrade then.

1- That 200mp is better spent in another unit to stop that harassment in 1v1. In teamgames the problem is that it boost allied resources, so the cost of cache is payed by only one player but benefits all players. Harassment is less of an issue in teamgames due to unit volume per point on map

3- Penals "power budget" is balanced around been good early game with insane vet values at the expense of scaling worst into late game combat (weapon upgrades are always preferable as a means of scaling due to DPS focus) and having problems with map presence.

EVEN if it was balanced, i don't think it would be accepted at all giving a 6 model squad a flamethrower upgrade. No matter at which point it unlocks.

They had it before, but you payed for it with a unit which was not useful at all and expensive. Once they were made useful, they end up been broken once you unlocked the flamer.


The problem with flamethrower as a weapon upgrade is that it is difficult to balance. They are an AoE weapon which ignores RA and clears for free any garrison. And if IIRC, all infantry flamethrowers should perform equally disregarding which is the platform they are on.

You can not find because it listed as bug fix. The majority of OKW support weapons crews where nerfed causing a number of issues and having to increase the power level of HMG-34.

They were using Volks Kars that i know of. I'm talking about RA, did they also had Volks RA ?

I don't know why you guys are arguing around Raketen vs tanks or raketen vs other Atgun when the topic is about raketen vs infantry.

I guess that because I'm right and you have no argument other than pointing your finger at something else as a distraction.

Because people underplay the strengths and highlights the weaknesses or viceversa. Both sides.

I'm the first to correct people who overvalue the other AT guns shield, but at least it seems to have a bigger hitbox and applies to at least 1 of the models more than half of the time.


If every other AT gun has a model with 50% dmg modifier and RA it would be comparable against small arm fire as having 5 models.


PD: what's the RA bonus? I was under the impression that they had better RA at some point but i can't find it on the changelog nor the latest coh2stats site shows any difference to other AT gun crews. Unless u mean the modifier which applies to all other retreating units.

Without specifying mode the question is a bit vague

I think it's a good minigame that let's you guess which game mode they play based on their commander choices.